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Old 24th April 2009, 10:59   #1
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Lightbulb Is it raining Lineas, or is it raining TDCis?

Just my observation - everyday in Gurgaon I see atleast 10-20 Ikon TDCi, but only 5-7 Lineas.

Somewhere on the forum, we all love FIAT but are missing that other cars are doing a good comeback too.

Just my observation - is it true?

PS: I somewhere think its partially cannibalized Fiesta sales, but that's a separate discussion.

Point is that a decent package, despite Ford's name can still sell.
PPS: Proof: 2.8k sold in march versus 1.3k sold in October (which includes sales around Diwali). What say peoples?

PPPS: Yes, I'm still pissed in some way that the car came a month too late, else i'd be driving an Ikon and not a Swift
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Old 24th April 2009, 11:16   #2
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Atleast in CHE, Ikon in TDCI guise is making a comeback, I see atleast 2 or 3 new Ikons during my daily commute but not Lineas . However in the Industrial estate where our office is located, I do get to see almost on a daily basis, Lineas coming from the yard ,parked in shade while the drivers engage in some shady activities like siphoning fuel and some general pilferage.
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I guess Ford has built enough of a brand value with the Fiesta and the last gen Ikon. phamillyman, were they all non taxis? I also see more new Ikons than new Lineas, but then there is a big difference in price tags.
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Tags not withstanding, its about people reposing faith in a brand given a competent package. unlike how Tata has killed Palio with a subpar offering (better steering/NVH/Fiat goodies in Vista - can it get any worse?)

And yes, almost 90% non taxis. Most taxi TDCi are out of town (typically southern Rajasthan).

I also note that new Fabias have come to a total standstill in Gurgaon. Current series is HR26 AW and the newest Fabia I saw was HR26AT (ie sometime in end Oct!!).
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Well in Mumbai, I've seen just about ONE "new" Ikon. The Lineas OTOH are all over the place. I like it that way.
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Well in Mumbai, I've seen just about ONE "new" Ikon. The Lineas OTOH are all over the place. I like it that way.
Is it also like you see only what you want to see?
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PPPS: Yes, I'm still pissed in some way that the car came a month too late, else i'd be driving an Ikon and not a Swift
Still not too late - since BRT is so enamored of the Swift (after riding/driving Shiv's/yours), maybe you should sell it off & get the Ikon
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Just my observation - everyday in Gurgaon I see atleast 10-20 Ikon TDCi, but only 5-7 Lineas.
How about putting the blame yet again on recession lol ?

But these are 2 different segments that you are comparing here. How about checking the sightings of the ANHC vs Linea ?
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Is it also like you see only what you want to see?
Not really. No. I also see a lot of NHC's which killed the legendary OHC. I don't really turn a blind eye towards them.
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Well, I too notice quite a few Ikon TDCi's on the road in Bangalore. Very rare to catch a glimpse of Lineas here.
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Even I see quite a big no's of Ikon Tdci on daily basis.

This is not the comparison of segments but the comparison of products which are trying to re-establish their companies.

Both of them are winners of their own segments and are well accepted among the buyers.

As far as Ikon Tdci is concerned, I am my self driving one and must say this car is a great buy at the price offered. Ikon TDci is fetching quite a good no of buyers of Swift and Swift Dzire.
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amazing number of Lineas on the roads of Bombay. Glad to see Fiat doing well and hopefully they will launch new cars. Though I hope not as underpowered as the Linea :(
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In Ahmedabad, Lineas are not seen that much, Ikons are frequently seen though.
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In Hyderabad at least i have seen good number of Lineas,which makes envious of all the Linea owners.
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Ikon TDCI is canniblising the sales of the Tata Indigo. Here the buyer has an option of a decent Diesel Sedan ( with a modern engine) for the price that is at par with a hatch.

The Linea is in a very different segment. TDCI is a competent ( though dated) offering at an attractive price and it makes a compelling case for itself for the VFM minded buyer.
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