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Old 13th May 2009, 16:10   #61
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Honda Jazz 1.2 i-vtec Indian Version

key details:

varients: only one

engine:

1.2 i-vtec
displacement:1198 cc
valve gear: SOHC
valves per cylinder: 16 valves, 4 per cylinder
max power: 90 ps (89bhp) @ 6000 rpm
max torque: 110 NM (11.2 kg-m) @ 4800 rpm
fuel delivery: PGM-FI

dimensions:

length: 3900 mm
width: 1695 mm
height: 1525 mm
wheelbase: 2500 mm
ground clearence: 160 mm
fuel tank capacity: 42 litres

transmission: 5-speed manual, 5F+1R, all forward speeds synchromesh with overdrive on 4th and 5th gear

steering: electric power assisted, rack and pinion

suspension:

front: McPherson strut with stabiliser bar
rear: H shaped torsion beam with stabiliser bar

brakes:

front: ventilated disc
rear: self adjusting drum, leading and trailing shoe type

wheels and tyres:

steel rims
5.5J X 15 wheels
tyre size: 175/65 R 15 tubeless

alloy wheels: not available

key features:

safety
ABS
dual SRS airbags
G-CON
fog lamps not standard, will be in accessories

exterior
colour keyed bumpers, door handles and side mirrors
15-inch wheels with full wheel cover

interior:
manual A/c with heater, 4-speed blower
integrated 2-DIN advanced audio with MP3/WMA capability
4 speakers, 2 tweeters
steering mounted audio controls
innovative storage spaces
driver's seat adjust
tilt steering
CD player
remote keyless entry with immobiliser
rear foldable seat
adjustible front and rear head restraints
rear wash/wipe with intermittant/ defogger
fuel consumption/ distance to empty meter

colour options:

crystal black
tafeta white
habanero red
alabaster silver
polished metal
bold beige
bluish silver

information in italics will be updated with full accuracy tomorrow.
all the info in italics is correct.

update:ONLY ONE VARIENT-JAZZ "S".

integrated CD player will be standard
aux-in port-standard
USB port-not available
alloys and fogs-not standard, part of accessories
tyre size, ground clearance are correct.
no A/T, no climate control.

2 new shades of blue-bluish silver and dark blue.

other shades-habanero red, crystal black, alabaster silver, tafeta white, polished metal metallic.

launch date and display-9th june
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Sid Bhai,
You are the scoop Master!
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Any clues on Pricing?
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Any clues on Pricing?
7,00,000 ex-delhi expected
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7,00,000 ex-delhi expected
That is quite an ask by Honda, which is not surprising though. I am sure it will sell in decent numbers.
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7,00,000 ex-delhi expected

I sincerely hope this car does not become a success. It should teach Honda India a good management lesson.
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7,00,000 ex-delhi expected
That makes it almost as expensive as the SRV
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I sincerely hope this car does not become a success. It should teach Honda India a good management lesson.
+1 to that, it surely deserves the fate that the Fabia & i20 are having in india.

This pricing is insane.
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I sincerely hope this car does not become a success. It should teach Honda India a good management lesson.
Same thoughts here!

The premium brand image of Honda in India is being overused.
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Sid ,
Any updates about auto-box , i mean after 2 months or 3 months or 4 months or something like that .

My guess is that it will sell in decent numbers , but overpriced.
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7,00,000 ex-delhi expected
That's way too high!!!! It will be roughly 8L OTR in Pune :(
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That's way too high!!!! It will be roughly 8L OTR in Pune :(
If it would be of any consolation to you, it will be more than 8.5L in Bangalore!

It should be a hot hatch with full wheel covers, manual AC etc. I am sure the engine would be decent (producing 89 BHP)

I'll rather keep quiet instead of eating my words later - I truly wish and hope it doesn't sell. And, I hope everyone wanting to pick it will pick up a Punto MJD instead! But, I have been proved wrong with Bangalore people running with their bags full of cash to pick up ANHC (AT costs 10.82L OTR, and the S MT costs 9.8L OTR)

Honda will have their way till we stop buying overpriced cars!

@sharma_sanjeevi - I heard that Hyundai is surprised with the popularity of i20 in India despite being priced high! They are unable to meet the demands and they are ramping up production of i20! All this with the top end i20 selling at 7L OTR Bangy with a scorcher 1.2 Kappa engine!

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don't call I 20 a flop.

Hyundai is not supplying more than 1,000-1200 units per month for our country and has actually exeeded sales expectations, and i feel it is not overpriced for the features and mechanicals it offers. which car OTR 6.3L will give you 6 airbags and whole lot of other small ingenious features?

the engine is not underpowered as it is written to be. An engine should not be judged from its quoted figures from paper but how well it is tuned to match the overall body profile and weight of the car.

underpowered it may be,where in our country's streets will you race the car?

i don't think its time of 0-100 kmph of 14.22 seconds makes it an underpowered car.

fabia is 1.2 litre, 3 cylinder, 69bhp. now take the call.
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For this price, if the same car was offered the 1.5L engine of ANHC, the pricing would have been right. Like I had expected, if at all Honda launches Jazz with 1.5L engine, it will be priced on par with ANHC but the question is will they? If they do, Jazz is a more proportionate design and good alternative to ANHC sharing all the same mechanicals, better interiors and marginally less boot space. If ANHC has a market at its price, Jazz certainly will be a success too but problem for Honda is it will eat the market share of the City, be it 1.2L or 1.5L engined option.
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In UK, The Honda Jazz S 1.2 VTEC sells at 9990, whereas the GP 1.3 MJD ACTIVE 75 BHP sells at 11,350.
The GP 1.3 MJD Eleganza 90 BHP sells at 13,650.

Both Honda and Fiat is going to give us a stripped down versions, but the price difference between GP MJD and Jazz is going to be reverse in India

By pricing Jazz around 7 lacs ex-showroom, Honda is moving from an overpricing policy to obscenely overpricing policy. This is going to be detrimental to Honda-India in a long term perspective.

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