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Old 28th May 2009, 12:17   #16
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I was in Bangkok recently and most of the taxi's which are either Corrola's or Camry's were running on a cng kit. I remember this beacause I had to take two taxis because the luggage did not fit into one taxi because of the space that the CNG tank takes in the boot. So if it can be done in Bangkok I am sure it can be done in India and I didnt find any problem with the ride quality or lack of power. They were all speeding merryily in the night.
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Even Queen Elizabeth's Bentley runs on a LPG ! Forgot the brand of LPG kit...
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Old 28th May 2009, 12:56   #18
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for 800kms CNG will not be that great an option.
i feel for 800km per week(3200 km per month) it make sense to go for cng
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Old 28th May 2009, 13:09   #19
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CNG/LPG will affect the ride quality to a certain extent and also reduces engine life compared to petrol/diesel counterparts. Of course when you put in 10 lacs+ in a car you expect it to have a very comfortable ride quality isnt it?
hey centaur,

could you please explain, how the ride quality will be affected by going for CNG/LPG retrofitment ?
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thats interesting - any idea which brand of kits these companies go for ?


also - as Abhinav has observed - there are a few customers who have done that. so possibly there are some "premium CNG kits " too in the market..
Its not that there are some premium CNG kits for Premium vehicle its just a matter of getting approval by a particular manufacturer of kits for particular vehicle, you will be surprised to know that a Landi-Renzo kit fitted in a Maruti Esteem is Rs. 7000\- more expensive than a BRC kit fitted in An INNOVA.
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Old 28th May 2009, 14:19   #21
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I have also seen accord running on CNG. fitted by some after market shop in mumbai.

IMO above 2.4 L engines, power drop will not that serious compare to smaller cars.

So, being an Eco friendly, CNG would be definitely a good option for high end cars.

Probably only for that reason, queen's Bentley is running on LPG.
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Old 28th May 2009, 19:08   #22
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The limited availability of CNG / LPG (vis a vis petrol & diesel) and the hassle (long ques & time to fill up) are the major deterrents. Plus, the 15 lakh rupee customer is not as price sensitive as a 4 lakh rupee hatchback buyer.
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for 800kms CNG will not be that great an option. Moreover if you put in a 60kg cylinder boot space will be reduced a lot. Why not try some diesel option?
800 kms per week is not a small number. daily 100+ kms running on petrol is not at all a viable option. if he can buy a new generation diesel car, thats the best choice, but if he don't want to buy another one, CNG is ofcourse a good option.
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800 kms per week is not a small number. daily 100+ kms running on petrol is not at all a viable option. if he can buy a new generation diesel car, thats the best choice, but if he don't want to buy another one, CNG is ofcourse a good option.
opppsss!!!sorry members. missed out on the 800kms "a week" part. Definitely 800 kms a week is a huge run and petrol is the last option one should consider for such a long run. If you already own a petrol car better to get it CNG retrofitted but ofcourse using an RTA approved Kit and from a good mechanic or service station

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hey centaur,

could you please explain, how the ride quality will be affected by going for CNG/LPG retrofitment ?
LPG engines esp have higher maintenance. with LPG engine temperatures soar high and the valves tend to wear of faster. Not that it is problem getting these valves replaced but this wont crop up in petrol engines. Moreover carbon deposition will be more compared to petrol engines. Pickup also reduces around 10-15%.

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hey centaur,

could you please explain, how the ride quality will be affected by going for CNG/LPG retrofitment ?
apart from the performance there is another factor of fuel availability and number of outlets for CNG. Again retrofitting a new petrol car with CNG could also get the warranty void. Thanks

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I'm reviving an old thread to ask how a powerful car(in this case, the cedia) would perform on CNG. With the recent increase in Petrol price and the upcoming one, my usage of this car has decreased tremendously.
Has anyone got/seen a cng fitted cedia?
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I saw a Honda Accord 3.0L V6 being retrofitted with CNG the other day, had gone with a friend who wanted to install CNG in his Honda Civic S M/T
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I saw a Honda Accord 3.0L V6 being retrofitted with CNG the other day, had gone with a friend who wanted to install CNG in his Honda Civic S M/T
Hey, you're the CNG specialist. Tell me, how many high end cars (D segment and above) have you seen running on CNG. I was thinking of buying a used Civic and putting CNG in it. I shurked because I thought it will be laughable. You can buy Civic but can't afford the petrol But, at 64/- Delhi, pertol is certainly costly. Plus, I simply don't want to 'count and run' my vehicles as many of us do. 'Buy something if you can afford it' syndrome
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Hey, you're the CNG specialist. Tell me, how many high end cars (D segment and above) have you seen running on CNG. I was thinking of buying a used Civic and putting CNG in it. I shurked because I thought it will be laughable. You can buy Civic but can't afford the petrol But, at 64/- Delhi, pertol is certainly costly. Plus, I simply don't want to 'count and run' my vehicles as many of us do. 'Buy something if you can afford it' syndrome

Thanks for the compliment!! Well my way of judging cars is different than most people. I mean if a car is a success in the Taxi segment or something is successful commercially then it should be successful for private use. I personally was convinced about CNG a long time ago. I was going somewhere in a CNG powered Radio Taxi (Mega Cab) Esteem and after 15 minutes into the ride, I asked all sorts of questions to the driver. He convinced me and gave all valid pro's and con's.

I have personally seen a Corolla, Civic, Accord (All generations except current), Octavia(only one) , Opel Astra, Sonata, CRV, Optra and Mercedes Benz C Class (Only one). Converted and running successfully. These are the ones I can recall clearly.


P.S.: saving on fuel costs + being greener in terms of emissions should be a matter of pride.
(No offence to anyone) and one more thing a CNG powered car does less harm than a Toyota Prius to the environment. In short a CNG 800 or Nano is greener than a Prius at a 10th of the latter's cost.

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. I was thinking of buying a used Civic and putting CNG in it. I shurked because I thought it will be laughable.
I dont think it is a laughable idea, I would think it is a practical idea. You will still continue to drive a Civic with all its niceties with less running costs. As far as I understand, acceleration might suffer a bit, but thats it. However, coil adjusters would be needed along with the CNG kit or a new suspension.

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I dont think it is a laughable idea, I would think it is a practical idea. You will still continue to drive a Civic with all its niceties with less running costs. As far as I understand, acceleration might suffer a bit, but thats it. However, coil adjusters would be needed along with the CNG kit or a new suspension.

The suspension would be fine, by just using a height raising kit or new rubber pads at the base. It depends on the type of suspension. The price would be anywhere between 300-1500 depending upon the type of suspension used.
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