|View Poll Results: Which is the best C+ segment sedan around?|
|Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE/ 1.3 Multijet||82||38.14%|
|Honda City 2009 1.5 S M/T||43||20.00%|
|Suzuki SX4 ZXi||26||12.09%|
|Ford Fiesta 1.6 S/ 1.4 TDCi||21||9.77%|
|Hyundai Verna VTVT SX 1.6/CRDi SX ABS||13||6.05%|
|Chevrolet Optra Magnum 1.6 LS||10||4.65%|
|Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 LXi||1||0.47%|
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|1st July 2009, 16:02||#91|
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So to increase wheelbase will not be as costly as modifying front and rear subassemblies. If a new platform is developed from a scratch, the desinging has to be done for front and rear subassemblies. This process is very costly in terms of monetory and time resources.
So I doubt that Fiat would put in money and resource for a platform that would give rise to only one car. Neither is Fiat aiming for huge number from Hungary plant. Why SX4 is only limited to Europe then if Fiat was involved in development of SX4 PLATFORM ?
An example : Gamma Platform developed by Fiat and GM. This is the platform that is base of Opel Corsa GP and Linea. Here both of them are getting good sales. Fiat could recover the investment of money they did in development phase.
Suzuki has sedan and hatchback with it. Ever wonder why Suzuki SX4 sedan is not sold under the brand of Fiat ?
2) Trust me, Wikipedia is not a complete guide to everything in case of automobiles. Type Body in White and you will not find a single image of what it is. Each and Every VVT is different, but on wikipedia you get details on very few. About SX4 its the same. The two links I have provided are also not jokes on internet. I really dont trust them when it comes to these things that are more political than technical.
Also try to find definition on Unitary construction, you will find less information on this.
1) Opel has been quite strong in Europe specially with Corsa. The latest corsa is based on Gamma Platform that is really co-developed by GM and Fiat.
2) Yes, agreed. Fiat is good at large hatchbacks. But Suzuki has sufficient expertise to produce large hatchbacks without any external help.
4) Suzuki has been supplying its cars to many other manufacturers too in Japan, maily Kei cars. They have supplied Kei cars to Mazda, Subaru, Mitsubishi and Nissan. It is so complex that nobody is able to list how many manufacturers took cars udner badge engineering from Suzuki.
3 and b) Disagree.
About powertrains : SX4 had M series petrol motors. Here Fiat was not involved in development of M series engines. And for diesel, 1910cc engine was not specially developed by Fiat for Suzuki. Neither did Suzuki develop that engine. Its the same mill as 1.9 Palio D had, but with tweaks and modifications.
I think no petrol or diesel mill were developed by Suzuki or Fiat, individually or combined, for SX4.
I disagree that development of powertrains took place.
About the platform ( i.e. point no. 3 ), I think I have the explanation above.
|2nd July 2009, 00:55||#93|
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You mentioned that Fiat has only one association with SX4 whereas what was found out was more than one association. So, thereafter onwards, did not care about all those long details you took efforts to write there, did not feel any need to.
On the other hand, if only Suzuki had sought Fiat help/ association in other factors, would not SX4 have been a better car in terms of Body Roll, Ride & Handling qualities??
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