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Old 29th August 2009, 02:19   #136
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Its a bit confusing actually. I see Audi under executive with 26 units. That must be A4. 90 is under premium. So should be A6 and 42 is under Luxury so must be A8. It may include TT Coupe and R8.
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The breakup is in terms of size and not price.
The A4 is actually 4703mm, just 3 mm more than the segment in which the C Class and 3 Series fall.
Hence, I would say it is safe to assume that 90 A4s and A6s were sold.
I feel the 26 units sold by Audi would either be the TT Coupe, or the Q5, as both of them are shorter than 4700 mm.
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1. Not an apple to apple comparison. Toyota sells a MUV

2. Doesn't really represent overall profitability at a global level. The loss might be due to high royalties paid to parent company or higher prices for CBUs/ components charged by parent company. It thus could be a transfer of profits to an overseas entity at the expense of the Indian entity
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Add to that there investment in a new plant during this financial year. major contribution to this may be because of this investment.
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Default Aug Sales - Initial report

Hi all,

Checked this news in rediff. Maruti has shown a significant increase in overall sales number with nearly 40% growth. Hyundai also has faired well with around 11% growth including domestic and exports. So, Aug also has been a great month for the car industry in India

Maruti Aug sales up 41.56%; Hyundai 12.92%: Rediff Business News, Latest India business news, India Economy news, World Business, Finance news, Latest business headlines, business videos and business articles.
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From the above link:
Maruti
Cumulative sales 84,808 up 42 %
domestic sales 69,961 up 30%
exports nearly doubled to 14,847( mainly due to a-star to europe)
M800 sales down to 2,734
A2 segment 52,473 up 39% (alto,wagon-r,swift,ritz,a-star,estilo)
A3 segment 7,821 up 44% ( dzire and SX4)

Hyundai
cumulatives sales 49,521 up 11%
domestic sales 24,401 up 13%
Hatchbacks 45,495 ( santro,getz prime,i10 and i20)
Accent and verna 3,979
sonata transform 47
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Default Skoda up 33% YOY in August

Skoda India has reported a 33 % rise in Sales in August 09 on a YOY basis.

Maruti & Mahindra share the honours with 42% rise in sales YOY. ( 16,600 + scorpios, Xylos, Boleros , pickups sold by mahindra in the month )

The Hindu Business Line : Maruti powers car sales into fast lane in August

P>S> from the link, 22,000 Altos sold in August . That is a pretty impressive number ,

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Car, bike sales zoom in August - India Business - Business - NEWS - The Times of India

To add further, Tata/Fiat saw 26% growth, at 20,146 units. Out of this, Tata sold 17,364 and Fiat sold 2782.

Mahindra grew 42% at 16,631.

Honda sold 4102 units, showing 4% growth that included 1,029 units of the Jazz hatchback. So, ANHC+Civic+Accord+CRV at 3073.
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August 2009 sales figures could result in a higher growth because of
1. base effect: see Aug 08 which indicated a slowdown from around Jul 2008.
2. recovery in sales from jun 09.
These two factors mean that while the numerator (Aug 2009) is increasing, the denominator (Aug 2008) had declined.

In addition, one big factor would be the forthcoming Shradh fortnight from around 5-19 Sep. Many people do not buy a car during these 15 days.
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Honda 08/09:
Jazz: 1029
City: 2536
Civic: 231
Accord: 229
CR-V: 77
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77 CRVs ?

Thats a lot compared to the previous month ain't it ?

Looks like Civic is sinking fast though !

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Compared with 8/08, these are Honda growth figs:
Jazz: not applicable
City: -8.2%
Civic: -61%
Accord: -50.2%
CRV: -40.2%
Total: 4%
Clearly, Jazz has contributed to sales. On a like to like basis (existing portfolio of 8/08, sales down 22%)

Compared with 7/09, the growth figs:
Jazz: -0.8%
City: -22.4%
Civic: -22.7%
Accord: 2.7%
CRV: 157%
Total: -15.5%

Customer's `compromise' is becoming serious for some makers.

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August 2009 sales figures could result in a higher growth because of
1. base effect: see Aug 08 which indicated a slowdown from around Jul 2008.
2. recovery in sales from jun 09.
These two factors mean that while the numerator (Aug 2009) is increasing, the denominator (Aug 2008) had declined.

In addition, one big factor would be the forthcoming Shradh fortnight from around 5-19 Sep. Many people do not buy a car during these 15 days.
Correctly analysed, Couple of guys in my office bought a linea and another guy bought a fiesta all this month due to Shradh coming next month.

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The % given in the newpapers today are over the July month 2009 not over August 2008.
The more reliable way to analyse growth is year on year (8/09 over 8/08). This reduces seasonal and unexpected effects to a larger extent, but is still not entirely accurate. However, it is far more reliable than month on month (8/09 over 7/09). Month on month can be useful in times of recession or slowdown when an uptick over the previous month can mean more sales, cash, and profits.

Internationally accepted standards are yoy, but mom is also used to prove some trend or reversal of some trend. if you read the GDP growth numbers yesterday, you saw a headline of 6.1% growth in Q1 compared with 5.8% in Q4FY09. that means GDP in Q1FY2010 (Apri-Jun) increased 6.1% compared with Q1FY2009 (April-Jun 08). If you analysed quarter on quarter, you would find a decline of 10%!!!. This is because Jan-mar quarter is always the busiest season. Similarly, everyone knows that Indian economy entered a period of slowdown in Oct-Dec 08 when GDP growth yoy was 5.8%, compared with 7.7% yoy in Jul-Sep 2008. However, if you analysed growth for Oct-Dec 08 over Jul-Sep 08, you would find GDP growing at 11.3% in Oct-Dec 08.

So qoq analysis would mean economy was booming in Oct-Dec 08, but is declining in Apr-Jun 09!!!

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Customer's `compromise' is becoming serious for some makers.
Honda cuts production before an upgrade. This year, Accord was upgraded, Jazz was launched, Civic updrade us due and CRV launch is planned for end of year. All these means lower numbers but still better in most segments.
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Honda cuts production before an upgrade. This year, Accord was upgraded, Jazz was launched, Civic updrade us due and CRV launch is planned for end of year. All these means lower numbers but still better in most segments.
If we compare pricewise segmentation, Honda is not leading in any segment except for the ANHC. All their models are going truely premium now (sales numbers reflecting the likes of other high end premium cars).
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Honda cuts production before an upgrade. This year, Accord was upgraded, Jazz was launched, Civic updrade us due and CRV launch is planned for end of year. All these means lower numbers but still better in most segments.
Hardcore H fan?

Accord is selling even poorer after the upgrade - superb beat it in numbers in the last two months.

Civic upgrade is due - but then Jazz is a new car that did not exist last year and hence addtional business and numbers. CRV has been going down in sales since last 6 months - can't be for a year end launch.

They have just out priced their reliablity.
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