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Old 25th August 2009, 10:14   #46
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An example of UK rules against overspeeding:

My cousin was clicked at 66 mph on a road where 60 mph was the limit - because if there are 2 lanes on both sides, he can drive at 70 mph, but the road he was driving on had 1 lane on the other side, and 2 lanes on his side - he is an extra-careful driver, driven in the UK for 10 years with a spotless record, was unmindful of the fact that the road on the other side had only one lane, and was most upset about the 3 penalty points he would get on his licence.

He got the option to take a Speed Awareness Course and save those 3 penalty points. It will ultimately reflect well on his vehicle ownership costs in terms of lesser insurance premium.

Whatever traffic rule you break in India, it doesn't reflect on your licence, and doesn't hurt you later on in terms of higher insurance costs etc. If you manage to get away, you're home free.

But being jailed without bail for an accident?
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Old 25th August 2009, 10:28   #47
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Absurd suggestion as usual from all the babus/netas, presuming it is always the driver who is at fault and treating us drivers as terrorists. GTO and others, please do look into using all your goodwill to represent in the media against such draconian laws. Rash and negligent is so wide open to subjective (mis)interpretation.

If this is implemented, god help us all motoring enthusiasts. We will have to keep drivers and go for driving holidays to Malaysia/Europe/Australia.
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Hmm, so what I am hearing from most everyone is that everyone except drivers are responsible for the high death rate on Indian roads. Interesting line of thought!
Also, I am not saying here that the innocent until proved guilty concept should be thrown out of the window, but we have done that without any major ruckus in the case of legislation like POTA. Before people start getting all worked up on being compared to terrorists, let me just say that there is no difference in the guilt of an alleged terrorist and an allegedly negligent driver, which is the point I would like to make. If one can be thrown into jail without a trial in a country, so can the other. And both must have the same rights until proven to be guilty. To be credible, do we not need to raise our voice about all such laws in the country?
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Aren't our law implmenters the fundamental problem rather than the laws themselves.

Don't know proper driving, but want a license? Our friendly Pandu will help for a price ofcourse.
Jumped red-lights -> Polish the wallets of the traffic Thulla and you are on your way to jump the next light.
Caused an accident -> It will cost you a bit more money. For the right amount you will ofcourse be let off.
Till our implementation angle is sorted out... the lawbreakers will continue to get away with impunity :( while the laws themselves will be misused to snag another poor innocent driver
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...everyone except drivers are responsible for the high death rate on Indian roads. Interesting line of thought!

...there is no difference in the guilt of an alleged terrorist and an allegedly negligent driver, which is the point I would like to make. If one can be thrown into jail without a trial in a country, so can the other. And both must have the same rights until proven to be guilty. To be credible, do we not need to raise our voice about all such laws in the country?
Sawyer, there you go hard-hitting again! Now you ARE sounding like a politician lecturing to uneducated village folks! What simile - negligent drivers compared to terrorists! Osama would give you a Nobel Prize if he could...
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Don't know proper driving, but want a license? Our friendly Pandu will help for a price ofcourse.
Jumped red-lights -> Polish the wallets of the traffic Thulla and you are on your way to jump the next light.
Caused an accident -> It will cost you a bit more money. For the right amount you will ofcourse be let off.
Till our implementation angle is sorted out... the lawbreakers will continue to get away with impunity :( while the laws themselves will be misused to snag another poor innocent driver
^^^That's what we are talking about.
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if we follow the british laws in Indian Penal Code (IPC acts) why cant we simply implement the UK road safety laws right from taking driving lessons, theory tests, evaluation tests, road tests, traffic signal tests, annual renewal of registration after the vehicle goes through a technical road worthy test.

Maruti has opened a driver learner school/institute, which should be replicated in all big cities under state govts and should be promoted by OEMs atleast for heavy commercial vehicles like TATA/AL/Volvo etc.

99% of heavy commercial vehicle in india dont have reflectors, working tailights and thier drivers dont have proper driving lessons.

along with the unique indian ID card, driving license should also be incorporated into that ID card!

all driving licenses should be included in a bigger data base on a state or country wide basis, atleast!

road research and construction can also be simply replicated from UK/australia, which are RHD!

the road research institute on mathura road in delhi is a fcuking waste of tax payer's money and manpower as they as non-functional like MCD of delhi!

......to be continued!
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