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Old 22nd September 2009, 15:42   #16
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Didn't GM and Suzuki also have a JV? Whatever came out of that?
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Old 22nd September 2009, 15:56   #17
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Looks like VW wants to go the FIAT way as far as the indian market is concerned which i think is not a good move at all.
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Old 22nd September 2009, 16:26   #18
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Looks like VW wants to go the FIAT way as far as the indian market is concerned which i think is not a good move at all.
What I gather from the news is that the tie up is at a global level, and not India specific.

We need to wait and watch what difference the tie up is going to make for the Indian customer.

I love the VWs for what they are. (They outnumber the SX4s and Skodas on the Highways around here), but I doubt I will be able to afford one.

Ilove Suzukis for what they are - VFM and ethical treatment of customers.

Only things I would like to change - MSIL improves its build quality. VW learns to recognise what is to be changed from customer feed back it gets.

Others may have their own wishes.
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So polo would be priced at 4.25 lac?Anyway its a good move by VW and i wish we are benefited by this deal.
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So polo would be priced at 4.25 lac?
At that price it will surely sport the 1.2L 3 cylinder unit from Skoda Fabia.
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This is not news to me. I was reading about the same for around a month. This is something Suzuki can do without. Suzuki has till now survived the worst, and the upcoming products are not bad at all.
May be because Fiat is delaying tech transfer for 1.6 and 1.9 diesels, so Suzuki went to VW for diesels.
But overall, this is out of the blue and VW has nothing to lose, but Suzuki is the loser here.
Suzuki + Toyota is the combination I wanted to see. Toyota already has Daihatsu, and with Suzuki + Daihatsu combined, the combination is unbeatable.

REPORT: Volkswagen considering stake in Suzuki for micro-car alliance — Autoblog

REPORT: Suzuki CEO denies talks with VW amidst tie-up rumors — Autoblog


REPORT: Volkswagen interested in partnership with Suzuki, still — Autoblog


Volkswagen looking to take stake in Suzuki by year's end? — Autoblog

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The rumors keep coming. Just last month, we reported that Volkswagen AG was interested in a small slice of Suzuki Motors. Now, the German industry publication Automobilwoche is reiterating the same news. Apparently, a Suzuki executive at the Frankfurt Motor Show mentioned that an agreement between the two automakers would be in place by the end of the year. "For Suzuki and VW this connection would be a win-win situation. Suzuki would have access to a variety of VW's technology, while Volkswagen would have a solid supporting leg in India and Southeast Asia," the unnamed source said.

Neither party has any official word on the matter. However, last Monday Martin Winterkorn, VW's Chief Executive, said the product portfolio of the Japanese automaker would fit well with his company.
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Didn't GM and Suzuki also have a JV? Whatever came out of that?
I think Suzuki bought its own shares back from GM quite sometime ago.

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"So can one expect MS to progressively switch from FIAT to VW diesels?"

What do you mean by switch?
From whatever I know, MJD is designed by Fiat, Suzuki and some-other-company-which-i-dont-remember.
MJD is NOT designed in patnership with Suzuki.

Suzuki is know for cars for the mass market - India is today it's biggest market worldwide.

VW is today NOT know for the mass market but is a bit of a premium brand that can take suzuki more global.

Suzuki car bodies are the opposite of VW (the way the doors close, the thud, the gauge thickness, the rattles etx.) Also the VW technology in terms of safety and feaures is something that Suzuki would gain from VW.

VW if it does tieup with Suzuki for support in countries like ours would be a boon for us. But it may not be as easy as Suzuki-maruti is geared for supporting mass sold cars not for the niche segment and till sales at VW ramp up it may not make sence to invest in supporting VW across the large number of service centres that Suzuki has, and hence support levels may continiue to be low.
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Would be great for both companies. Maruti needs bigger diesels if it has to move up in the higher segments. I have been saying that Maruti should have used GMs diesels for SX4 and upcoming Kizashi. Now it can all fall back in place.
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Old 8th December 2009, 20:36   #24
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Default VW to announce plan to purchase 20% stake in Suzuki

VW is close to announce plans to take up to 20% stake in Suzuki Motor Com. The deal would be worth 2.8B USD.

sorry, Source cant be made public now.
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What can we expect? Failed Skoda engines in Maruti Suzuki !
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What can we expect? Failed Skoda engines in Maruti Suzuki !
dude VW owns porsche, lambo, bugatti etc, they dont have skoda engines in them
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- Suzuki dealers and service centers will undergo a course in ethics from VW executives. (Susuki does need some classes in ethics).

- All Suzuki vehicle owners can expect S class (S as in Skoda) TCO (total cost of ownership).

- VW's reliable, trustworth and cheap dual mass flywheels will go into all Suzuki vehicles.
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dude VW owns porsche, lambo, bugatti etc, they dont have skoda engines in them
What they are aiming at by taking the stake ?

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Executives at Volkswagen, the world's third-largest automaker, have publicly said over the past half year that Suzuki would be an interesting target given its expertise in small cars -- a key segment to compete in emerging markets.
Are you dreaming about porsche, lambo, bugatti engines in Maruti Suzuki cars !

Small engines from VW fitted in Polo as well as Fabia

More news about the story can be found here:

UPDATE 1-VW to take up to 20 pct Suzuki stake | Business | guardian.co.uk

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So VW diesels in Suzuki vehicles. Hope they keep interaction to minimum without diluting each other's expertise.
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With respect to the US market, Suzuki could definitely do with VW's help.Either a revamped status for Suzuki, or VW's entry into a lower domain to sell cars in huge numbers.A blend of the two ought to bring out some interesting cars,IMO.
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