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Old 23rd October 2009, 15:51   #271
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@GTO - How very true !!

In general -
Somehow we are an unsatisfied lot, arent we ?

Someone makes cosmetic and feature changes - we are not happy.
Someone changes the damn engine and gets a in new transmission - we'r again not happy.

If the car manufacturers were to do all of the above at one go, it'd simply be a 'new' car in itself, not an upgrade !
Manufacturer makes cars for sale, not to please or disappoint any forum. Point we are discussing here is will new upgrade boost the much needed sale. If at very inception we have negative answer for this VVt version, whats the fun with an upgrade ?

I personally own a Sx4 for last 2 years, its wonderful car. Its key attributes are unfound in rivals. It started well with sale chart, dragged City to no 2 spot but very quickly lost its steam. In general MSIL products have lots of quality related issues and Sx4 though being branded premium but later we discovered with same inheriting MSIL quality bugs.
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I'll rather have a less prestigious "S-badge" and pay less than dishing out loads more just for the supposedly more prestigious "H-badge".
You said it. I guess the reason SX4s lack of sales is the perception of a fuel guzzler. Of course there are lot of areas of improvement, but then it is there in any car even in a "H" badged one. There is no perfect car.
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Hey, improvements are always welcome! Just goes to show the competitiveness of the C segment. I'm happy to finally see an A/T box in a Maruti sedan (long time since the awful Esteem AX). Premium car buyers are increasingly deviating toward auto-boxes. The improvements + higher price takes it one step away from the Dzire. Whether that'll help or not, only time will tell.

But I can say this : If Maruti wants to really move the SX4 off showroom floors, a 1.6 / 1.9 DDIS is the only way.
Hi GTO, if you feel Sx4 with 1.6/1.9 DDiS may do wonders for MSIL, then let me know why Verna diesel is roughly selling at quarter the volume of ANHC? Is something wrong with product or Korean badge?
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Hi GTO, if you feel Sx4 with 1.6/1.9 DDiS may do wonders for MSIL, then let me know why Verna diesel is roughly selling at quarter the volume of ANHC? Is something wrong with product or Korean badge?

The Korean Badge. Hyundai is successful in India only in the small Car segment. In Middle east, Hyundai (Or any Korean brand) is only for expats.
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Hi GTO, if you feel Sx4 with 1.6/1.9 DDiS may do wonders for MSIL, then let me know why Verna diesel is roughly selling at quarter the volume of ANHC? Is something wrong with product or Korean badge?
The only great thing about the Verna is the 'CRDi'.
It isnt very inspiring in Most of the other aspects - handling, stability, fun to drive, looks, features etc.
SX4 is much better positioned here, comparatively.

Also think why Swift DDiS in its days clocked such huge numbers, outscoring combined sales of Getz, UVA and the likes.
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The upgrade is really nice. Capable VVT engine and an autobox what more can we expect.Unlike the city which don't have alloys, SX4 is already loaded with tons of features. Maruti has really done what customers wanted.
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Will Maruti be the first to launch the awesome 1.6/1.9 DDiS Engine in SX4 ? Fiat better stick as supplier of Engine technology.
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Few more additions would have made the SX4 brand a good volume player for Maruti:

1. More power from 1.6L Petrol motor: at around 120BHP - will prove to be a good performer.
2. The 1.6L Diesel - Diesel mileage advantage.
3. A 1.4L K-Series (does it exist?) Petrol engine with around 100BHP power - Petrol mileage advantage.
4. The SX4 hatchback with both 1.4L Petrol and 1.6L Diesel engines - can target the super hatch segment.

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Is there any official news out of the updated SX4's launch?
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Went to the site now but still no update.

Waiting for the engine specs
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Mods, please change the title of the thread as the new SX4 has been launched.
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The upgrade is really nice. Capable VVT engine and an autobox what more can we expect.Unlike the city which don't have alloys, SX4 is already loaded with tons of features. Maruti has really done what customers wanted.
The facelifted ANHC DOES come with alloy wheels now.
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What's better? A European crossover derived sedan from suzuki or a sedan from Honda that looks like a 'wanna-be Thai Muscle Car' (if something like that exists). Okay its based on the Jazz but then City is Not Available in Europe. Now, what is more prestigious? A car that sells in India and Europe or one that sells in India and Thailand? eh...?


Wanna be THAI MUSCLE CAR !!! that was hilarious.
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The Korean Badge. Hyundai is successful in India only in the small Car segment. In Middle east, Hyundai (Or any Korean brand) is only for expats.
er...ehmmm. you are talking about the fifth largest manufacturer of cars worldwide. its hyundai motors
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Hi Guys
just passed by the vasant kunj headquarters of MSIL, they have a large visual of the new sx4 on the windows, it states 'all new sx4" had cool allloys and a new bumper from what i saw.
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