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Old 17th November 2009, 13:17   #31
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or ACM like tata have made mandatory for top end model for safari, why not other vehicles in tata stable have got these safety features, they dont even give ABS in any other vehicles, is only safari owners need to have safety features, no i dont think so neither do any of us do.ABS should be mandatory in all vehicles and Airbags options on atleast two to three variants, leaving base model.
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Does this mean that the entry level cars do not need an air bag?
IMO, airbags should be offered as an option on all cars that are manufactured.
Then its up to the prospective buyer to decide if he would be willing to pay a few thousands more for his life.
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Airbags are a safety device, its like an insurance policy. It has to be offered as standard equipment either now or later.

People would not even buckle up seat belts if traffic police were to say those who feel like can wear them.
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The new Scorpio Refresh in South Africa is equipped with Airbags & ABS - But not the Xylo E8 models. All competition vehicles in SA has airbags and thus makes it difficult to compete against some models due to the safety aspect in the market.
The Xylo is mainly used as a people transporter in SA in applications as "mom`s taxis" running kids around - there safety is a huge factor as "mom" driving it - its very important safety factor
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Airbags are a safety device, its like an insurance policy. It has to be offered as standard equipment either now or later.

People would not even buckle up seat belts if traffic police were to say those who feel like can wear them.
I agree to you on all counts. SAFETY IS NOT A PRIVILAGE,BUT A RIGHT !!!!!
Every life is precious,wheather that life is travelling in base or top model !!!!!!!
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Old 17th November 2009, 17:43   #36
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Can somebody confirm the price of the E8 model with ABS & AIRBAGS in Mumbai ?
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Old 17th November 2009, 20:45   #37
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Post new xylo brochure

Got my hands on the brochure.

Mods please put it in the right thread, if there is a separate one for files/brochures.
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You actually mean who FEEL that they do not need an Airbag as they are blessed ones and will never have an accident, or FEEL that if they do have an accident it is best NOT to survive and have to pay for the accident REPAIR bills of a blown dash.

Remaining mortals all do NEED an airbag.

Needs are so relative - why not atleast make it a compulsary part in atleast one model. Like the TATA guys do with the Safari VX. (Ofcourse the safari possible do not sell in large number on account of this.)
see what i meant is for those who feel airbags are unnecessary, why should mahindra lose their business to them? they would eventually buy a tavera or grande as it would be cheaper!

if some people think that Airbags are useless & they themselves dont care about their family, why should mahindra care?

so, by providing it as an option & not standard, mahindra will cater to both the groups of customers.
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see what i meant is for those who feel airbags are unnecessary, why should mahindra lose their business to them? they would eventually buy a tavera or grande as it would be cheaper!

if some people think that Airbags are useless & they themselves dont care about their family, why should mahindra care?

so, by providing it as an option & not standard, mahindra will cater to both the groups of customers.
Mahindra as a manufacturer should have social responsiblity to save as many lives as possible, ive met lots of people who claim that a certain car saved their life at some point of time so they prefer that brand so it even makes commercial sense.

If you say why should Mahindra care? They are designing and manufacturing a car for us, our life depends on their design and its implementation. Its their job to ensure every safety feature makes commercial sense.

Do you really think our Governmnt should care?
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Mahindra as a manufacturer should have social responsiblity to save as many lives as possible, ive met lots of people who claim that a certain car saved their life at some point of time so they prefer that brand so it even makes commercial sense.

If you say why should Mahindra care? They are designing and manufacturing a car for us, our life depends on their design and its implementation. Its their job to ensure every safety feature makes commercial sense.

Do you really think our Governmnt should care?
its now rocket science to understand that mahindra is here to do just business. it will market & produce what sells.

talking about social responsibility, mahindra has shown the same by providing airbags. but to opt for it or not is ultimately left to the customer. outside the T-BHP world, there are many (i have met many) who claim that airbags rarely inflate & they would not opt for it even as an option.

just compare the sales of swift ZXi (with airbags) to swift VXi (without airbags)! heck, VXi is even available with ABS as option, i have not seen many cars fitted with it! somewhere else i ready mahindra's own xylo with Airbags is not selling well as compared to the ones without airbags.

so if we (general public) are not ready to change attitude towards road safety, then we should not expect the manufacturers to care! hence i feel, when given as an option, its the best bet, both for the customers as well as for the manufacturer.

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Old 23rd November 2009, 16:40   #41
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So in the end, it is upto the government to bring in safety regulations for our benefit, the manufacturers won't be bothered if does not help them with their sales.
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So in the end, it is upto the government to bring in safety regulations for our benefit, the manufacturers won't be bothered if does not help them with their sales.
that is what the scenario seems to be, manufacturers are not bothered, as they look out for volume numbers which this featured model does not carter in our country.
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So in the end, it is upto the government to bring in safety regulations for our benefit, the manufacturers won't be bothered if does not help them with their sales.
Unfortunate, but true. Take the example of Maruti : It won't give airbags in some of its diesel cars, while the option is available with petrols! Ironical, do diesel car owners care less about their life?
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Unfortunate, but true. Take the example of Maruti : It won't give airbags in some of its diesel cars, while the option is available with petrols! Ironical, do diesel car owners care less about their life?
More so by selling cars like 800 and Omni which do not have enough structural strength to be called a safe car. Its a shame for Maruti who finds collapsible steering column and side impact door beams to be sufficient safety features in these cars which were designed in 80's. Another unsafe car was Esteem which was discontinued recently.

@Mods- Sorry for hijacking the thread and dragging it offtopic, a separate thread can be made For some posts from this thread can be merged into relevent thread as i fear it may go a bit more offtopic.
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Just to give more info as of now, airbags in Xylo are available only in the E8 variant for an additional 25k and only in white color.
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