Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 27th November 2009, 19:44   #61
Senior - BHPian
 
McLaren Rulez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mysore
Posts: 2,375
Thanked: 474 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stanjohn123 View Post
Can a common man with that amount of cash buy it or can it just be purchased for 5 or 4 star hotel use(for customers)??
If you're talking about the EPCG scheme, then no. I don't think this is under that. But interestingly, what would be the price of this BMW under EPCG?
McLaren Rulez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2009, 19:55   #62
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bombay
Posts: 956
Thanked: 90 Times
Default

Lads,

This scheme seems to be only for fleet buyers ( taxis/travel agencies/hotels). If so, this is not for driving enthusiasts.

How good is the 2 litre engine? Any possibility of a similar discount on the 325d/330d (meant for enthusiasts)?
I understand the 320d won't be competition to the Accord/Camry/Superb from a rear seat space and comfort perspective. It will be bought ( if its not restricted to fleet sales) to 1. enthusiasts and 2. buyers for whom snob value is important.

Hope the first category steps in first.
Regards
issigonis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2009, 20:21   #63
BHPian
 
Caramelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ahmedabad
Posts: 769
Thanked: 13 Times
Default

arey guys this is just to get to get the brand out there!! its mostly for fleet operaters!!

its gonna be used as official " corporate pick vehicle up for junior execs" or taxies instead of a corolla or whatever something this is kinda better!! . you know so that they feel special and they dont envy their bosses roaming around in 7 series

its not for the usual customers!! so prospective buyers don't get your hopes up!!

Last edited by Caramelo : 27th November 2009 at 20:22.
Caramelo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2009, 21:16   #64
Senior - BHPian
 
McLaren Rulez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mysore
Posts: 2,375
Thanked: 474 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caramelo View Post
its not for the usual customers!! so prospective buyers don't get your hopes up!!
Are you saying that a chap who has the money cannot buy it? That would be rather strange. Personally a BMW is still a BMW. I'd have it if I had the money.
McLaren Rulez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2009, 23:16   #65
Distinguished - BHPian
 
FlyingSpur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,937
Thanked: 1,331 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez View Post
Are you saying that a chap who has the money cannot buy it? That would be rather strange. Personally a BMW is still a BMW. I'd have it if I had the money.
Err, no !! What he meant, I assume, is what's already been said on this thread a few times if you haven't been reading - speculations are that this is for fleet buyers only.

BTW, I think we should come together and form a group of 10-odd customers and buy a fleet of them for ourselves ! Oh yeah !

Last edited by FlyingSpur : 27th November 2009 at 23:18.
FlyingSpur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th November 2009, 02:15   #66
Senior - BHPian
 
stanjohn123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: TN 75
Posts: 1,063
Thanked: 392 Times
Default

It's a pity if it's only for fleet operators , then i believe even the engine will be downgraded a lot.It'll be totally unenthusiastic if you ask me.But I'd still envy the lucky driver who drives it. But will BMW do such a thing ?? That seems like a very bad marketing move.
stanjohn123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th November 2009, 12:25   #67
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,713
Thanked: 88,942 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RakishRam View Post
This is exactly the trigger, also BMW should consider manual trans.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh : Manual 320d (or 325i & 330d ) = Perfect!

Quote:
It shows 15% of C-class sold are manuals.
Not anymore. Merc has stopped selling Cs with manual transmissions. The only ones who bought them were petrolheads & taxis. One of the reasons why I'm planning to hold on to my C220 for a long time is that all high-end Euros are now sold with AT only. Manual + torque make for interesting highway drives
GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th November 2009, 13:26   #68
Senior - BHPian
 
McLaren Rulez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mysore
Posts: 2,375
Thanked: 474 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingspur View Post
Err, no !! What he meant, I assume, is what's already been said on this thread a few times if you haven't been reading - speculations are that this is for fleet buyers only.

BTW, I think we should come together and form a group of 10-odd customers and buy a fleet of them for ourselves ! Oh yeah !
Oh I must have missed that bit. Thanks for clearing up.
McLaren Rulez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th November 2009, 22:32   #69
BHPian
 
Yeldo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Kochi
Posts: 719
Thanked: 644 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTO View Post
Manual + torque make for interesting highway drives
Whoa! I totally agree with you. I had a W210 E220CDI Manual, base model with fabric upholstery. It was cancelled by someone I knew, so I took it. What an experience it was back in those days! I heard that many chauffeur- driven owners complained of transmission jerkiness when drivers with little exposure to 6 speeders where at the wheel, so MBIL stopped M/Ts keeping an eye on refinement.

On the topic, I think a 320d with regular tyres, manual gearbox, no sunroof, no i-Drive, and fabric upholstery might be a very good buy at 23- 24L or thereabouts. And I can't think of dilution of brand value, since at that price point, not many taxi operators would be willing to take one. Not just Passat, but the Superb, Camry, Accord all could be hit. Not to say the A4 and the C. Such no frills variants are there in Europe, so why manufacturers make us buy feature we may not want/ need?
Yeldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2009, 08:30   #70
Distinguished - BHPian
 
FlyingSpur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,937
Thanked: 1,331 Times
Default

By the way, we're forgetting that even for fleet buyers, this is quite a price. The hotels get their Camrys at about half the price because of EPCG. So don't expect all Camrys to be replaced by this base 3.
FlyingSpur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2009, 12:58   #71
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Delhi/Chandigarh
Posts: 289
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

A sales representative of Bird Automotive, Delhi dealer of BMW, expressed complete ignorance about the scaled down version of the 320D when I enquired about it. He has, however, promised to get back to me on the issue.
ivar1951 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th November 2009, 11:00   #72
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,713
Thanked: 88,942 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez View Post
what would be the price of this BMW under EPCG?
Hardly a difference . The EPCG equates to import duty savings on a CBU, the 320d is assembled here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stanjohn123 View Post
then i believe even the engine will be downgraded a lot.
Nope, it would actually cost BMW more to downgrade than sell the engine as is. And, come to think of it, would they sell an engine that is less durable to fleet operators? Those who need durability the most?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeldo View Post
Whoa! I totally agree with you. I had a W210 E220CDI Manual, base model with fabric upholstery.
Wow, I wasn't aware that the W210 was offered with a manual. I guess that was the first common-rail diesel sold in the country. You must have "shattered" a few myths about diesels with that car, wot?

Quote:
so MBIL stopped M/Ts keeping an eye on refinement.
Manual C was available till as late as 2008.

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingspur View Post
By the way, we're forgetting that even for fleet buyers, this is quite a price. The hotels get their Camrys at about half the price because of EPCG.
Sensible post and something we overlooked! Sure, the hotels get Camrys for like 10 lakh rupees.
GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th November 2009, 11:14   #73
BHPian
 
Caramelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ahmedabad
Posts: 769
Thanked: 13 Times
Default

@mclaren_rulez i hope you got my point bro!

@ GTO, what other cars can u buy through EPCG!!
i am more interested in the new 2010 5 series its just awesome!!(not that i have the money to get one myself but heheh i like it)

also in this weeks overdrive they compared the 320d and 520d and no points for guessing the winner!! its was 520d,i was amazed that you get idrive in the 520d didn't know that!! but the guy kept saying basic idrive?? what did he meant by that!!

Last edited by Caramelo : 30th November 2009 at 11:16.
Caramelo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th November 2009, 13:46   #74
njh
BHPian
 
njh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Poona
Posts: 32
Thanked: Once
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sidindica View Post
Yes, you heard it right. The current 320 D is available in 2 variants:
  • 320D basic-29,50,000 ex-Delhi
  • 320D high line-30,50,000 ex-Delhi
BMW will launch stripped down model called 320D executive priced at about 24 lakh, ex-Delhi which removes sunroof, power seats and cupholders etc (cannot recall anything else).

Expected price is around Rs. 24 lakh ex-Delhi. The 3 series basic will be discontinued while the high line will remain.
I wouldn't touch the BMW with a ten foot pole. The Passat does come with all the frills, and to pay the same price, and get no frills as far as the BMW goes is totally illogical.
njh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th November 2009, 18:19   #75
BHPian
 
varun m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: mumbai and delhi
Posts: 93
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

guys, spoke to a senior manager at bmw yesterday at a dealership near my house, he confirmed that it wont even have leather seats.....FABRIC SEATS !!!!

Thats too basic.

It wont be done to the pertol engines, only 320d.

But it would retain the auto transmission.

I would consider it.
varun m is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Corporate Edition is back; BMW set to launch an entry level 320i petrol variant Abhinav667 The Indian Car Scene 7 25th November 2012 01:50
Report & Pics: VW Vento IPL Edition EDIT : Now IPL Edition II Launched for 2012 IPL Stratos The Indian Car Scene 76 15th March 2012 08:44
BMW 320D versus BMW X1 (both Corporate Edition) andyb What Car? 47 31st March 2011 18:34
VW Passat or BMW 320d Highline or New Audi A4 - EDIT : Bought BMW 520d Insane Devil Luxury, Imports & Niche 147 5th November 2009 00:59
All new Corolla coming soon EDIT: Corolla Altis now Launched extreme_torque The Indian Car Scene 295 19th September 2008 23:48


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 07:58.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks