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Old 18th January 2010, 20:20   #31
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In order for Mitsu to survive they need to break away from HM and have their own set up in India. Senior managers in HM have grown up selling cars in the socialist era when the only competition was a Premier Padmini. The world has moved on, but the clowns at HM are still their. The clown paint scheme on a beautiful vehicle like the Pajero 2.8 is testimony that idiots still call the shots at HM.

Ford and Captiva have made some attempt to fight the onslaught of Toyota Fortuner but HM Mitsu management is still in their *meeting* eating vadda and drinking chai talking about the good old times when people booked and waited years for an Ambassador.
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Old 18th January 2010, 23:07   #32
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OMG another possible entry in the small car segment.. Now how many are we going to have here yaar.

I guess this year will be like new launch year, who will win and who will dissolve will be seen post 2012. What say?
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Old 18th January 2010, 23:14   #33
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Default Colt Colt Colt....anybody listening?

Is Mitsubishi of Japan really in control??

I think not. Hindustan Motors runs the show, asks Mitsu what they feel is the right model, pays for the technology and sells it here.

The Mitsu Colt Hatchback with a 1.2 version of the Lancer engine would have been a sweet car to take on the hot seller Swift
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Old 19th January 2010, 00:13   #34
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Good to see the fan following Mitsu has in India. They cater to enthusiast car buyers unlike Toyota/Honda whose cars are more utilitarian in nature. However, you cannot survive on niche market alone. you need to do up some numbers, too. That is where the bread and butter comes from. For every one Karizma bike sold, over a 100 Splendors are sold. This exhibits the utilitarian nature of Indian consumers in general. Mitsu should bring in a hatch to churn up some numbers post haste. And they should sever their ties with HM. HM is a big millstone around the neck of Mitsubishi. If Yamaha can bounce back with enthusiast bikes, why can't Mitsubishi?
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Old 19th January 2010, 00:34   #35
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Does the 4G94 in the Cedia sell anywhere else in the world complying to E IV norms? If so are the specs of that version same as the one sold here?
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Plans, Plans and Plans. Thats what the HM management is capable of. I dont think they have the word implementing in their dictionary. As I always say "awesome engineering, aweful management".

I have been listening to and reading about what company plans to do since I first decided to buy a cedia, its been almost one and a half year. But the plans have remained plans. No new lancer, no evo, no colt and hence no revenues. Generation old cars like lancer and pajero still sold here. We have all been waiting for the new lancer and even the EVO but the wait seems endless. Oulander at 23 and montero at 45 seems like a Joke. What pricing.

But whats the good part here. The resale is aweful for all the models. So, you can find a pre-owned model in prestine condition for almost half the original price. Dont know about others, but I am happy to live with the exclusivity, reliability and sheer driving pleasure of Mitsubishis. If things remain unchanged, I am ready to sign a contract to drive pre-owned Mitsubishi's for the rest of my Life.

Sheer driving pleasure, sheer VFM.
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Old 19th January 2010, 18:11   #37
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No I believe it was given away to make place for a new facility in the new auto hub of mumbai, Worli.

Don't have details now but will post when information trickles through.
Vid, while worli is the new auto hub of Mumbai (related thread (Worli : the new auto-hub of Mumbai)), their new showroom is entirely "miss"able. The previous one in South Bombay was absolutely attention grabbing, the new one at Worli has lesser frontage (glass display) than some Levis stores. Plus, the Mitsu showroom is now part of a MALL! IIRC, it barely has space for two display cars and NO workshop attached (mall after all).
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Old 20th January 2010, 02:42   #38
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^^ There are very few examples that a speculation turned into reality. Even if it did, it takes a long time. Specs for Punto was for over 2 years if I remember correctly and even for Polo. If its not a spec and Mitsubishi is serious, then either you would spot a Mitsubishi car (new Lancer, Colt etc etc) OR company themselves will announce. But neither of those are happening. So its very difficult to believe this. I am a fan of Lancer and sometimes still consider buying the Lancer, ok bad joke! But looking for used one right now. But the point is, its just too hard for me to believe that they are upto something.
Just see this, Ford had a hard time investing in India for its new line up which starts with Figo. Is Mitsubishi really looking fwd. to do that? The new gen Lancer would have to be 3 gen ahead of the existing Lancer. It needs massive investments. If they are recruiting new Product Managers then just maybe they would be able to convince the investors/banks :P The old ones slept after the launch of Lancer.
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Old 20th January 2010, 11:33   #39
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Would it be all that difficult for them to launch a diesel Cedia at competitive prices, check the market responce and then launch the new Lancer Diesel/Petrol.
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^^ The new gen Lancer would have to be 3 gen ahead of the existing Lancer. It needs massive investments. If they are recruiting new Product Managers then just maybe they would be able to convince the investors/banks :P The old ones slept after the launch of Lancer.
Mitsu could have atleast given us the n-1 gen Lancer to begin with minimal investment from those spent/depreciated dies and others.
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I think Mitsu India should take some tips from Yamaha India on how to restore a dying brand.

Yamaha has just taken bike segment by storm number of yamaha bikes which I have seen looks like people have stopped buying bajaj and hero honda.
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Today morning while rushing to office saw a strange looking car parked in a residence area(rajajingar), at first thought it was a vista looking at the head lamp but this hatch looked more strange and big to be a vista until i saw the mitsubishi logo at the front and colt written behind with that testing number plate behind
sorry was about to snap a pic with my phone camera, but could not as people started honking for space. Will try again tomorrow...

It was a silver colored and looked bigger than the rest on the lines of jazz

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Today morning while rushing to office saw a strange looking car parked in a residence area(rajajingar), at first thought it was a vista looking at the head lamp but this hatch looked more strange and big to be a vista until i saw the mitsubishi logo at the front and colt written behind with that testing number plate behind
sorry was about to snap a pic with my phone camera, but could not as people started honking for space. Will try again tomorrow...

It was a silver colored and looked bigger than the rest on the lines of jazz
Wow ! does this mean that the mistu guys have finally woken up?. Any more information on this from anyone else.

Sidindica, any scoops on this?
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Today morning while rushing to office saw a strange looking car parked in a residence area(rajajingar), at first thought it was a vista looking at the head lamp but this hatch looked more strange and big to be a vista until i saw the mitsubishi logo at the front and colt written behind with that testing number plate behind
sorry was about to snap a pic with my phone camera, but could not as people started honking for space. Will try again tomorrow...

It was a silver colored and looked bigger than the rest on the lines of jazz
Great to hear that.. However, we cant be sure if and when it will be lauched in India. The new Mitsubishi Lancer was spotted tesing in India in 2008 but here we are in 2010 and there are no signs of the car to launched soon.

Come on Mitsubishi, we want them.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 13:30   #45
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I don't trust Mitsubishi to bring any excitement to the market but if at all they do bring Colt( At least by some mistake), it will shake the small hot hatch market. Colt is like a controlled rocket!
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