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Old 23rd March 2010, 14:37   #166
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The seatbelts were not tangling in any way, and no one had a problem entering the car. I guess it is something more than that.
Any photos of the automatic seatbelt? I found one in Wikipedia but it is not detailed.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 15:53   #167
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Any photos of the automatic seatbelt? I found one in Wikipedia but it is not detailed.
Sadly no. My colleague in US sold (or did he exchange) his old mazda protege for a new mazda 3 soon after I reached US in 2007. I only had opportunity to sit in that car for a 3-4 months.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 19:15   #168
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To convince neighbours that seatbelts are necessary even at very low speeds, I use my laptop to show them the following you-tube video, I've had some success so far.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post1512638 (How about wearing seatbelts?)
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I always wear seat belt when I am driving or I am in the passnger seat and feel very uncomrtable if I dont do so. My 12 year son also wears seat belt when he is iin the pessanger seat. Lately my wife has also strted doing so. But parents, they still wont wear it.

After watching this video, I shell insist for the rear seat as well.
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The seatbelts were not tangling in any way, and no one had a problem entering the car. I guess it is something more than that.
But i think it had to do with long term durability.I mean if the motor stops working.(80's cars reliability) and all the carmakers thought why bother with it when they could have airbags
EDIT:Sorry guyz,re-editing.One could manually un-clip the seatbelt and use it without the help of the automated motor.
I think the reason for stopping maybe automated seatbelts can't facilitate 3 point seatbelts.I mean the motor could put the shoulder (cross) belt,but what about the lap or hip point belt???

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But i think it had to do with long term durability.I mean if the motor stops working.(80's cars reliability) and all the carmakers thought why bother with it when they could have airbags
EDIT:Sorry guyz,re-editing.One could manually un-clip the seatbelt and use it without the help of the automated motor.
I think the reason for stopping maybe automated seatbelts can't facilitate 3 point seatbelts.I mean the motor could put the shoulder (cross) belt,but what about the lap or hip point belt???

I guess this maybe the reason for its discontinuation. The car with automatic seatbelts had a separate lap belt other than the crossbelt.
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Old 26th March 2010, 14:12   #172
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Which are the cars comes with Height Adjustable seatbelts in B segment Hatches and C Segments sedans?

Due to the fixed height, I found it is irritating for the normal indian women ( Read average 5ft~) for whome it rubs their neck and doesn't fit in the center ( read comfortable) of their body.

So like kids, only hip belt is worn and the cross belt is being put back side.

I am not sure how much it can help protecting them.

How do i insist them to wear belt? For some i tell that "I am just an L board", for others " I drive Fast" for some elders, " Police catches and fines". And for some others, sentiment " Because I love you"

So it works. And never take the 6th person in a car where only 5 can travel.
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Which are the cars comes with Height Adjustable seatbelts in B segment Hatches and C Segments sedans?
Fiat Grande Punto Emotion Pack variant has height adjustable seat belts. Not sure about other B segment hatches thou.
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One more cheap lil' way to make someone buckle up,
Try spotting an expensive car, 5Series, E class or a luxury SUV with people wearing seatbelts(most of these owners/drivers are responsible enough to be buckled up)
Tell the person that the people who have an expensive car buckle up because they know the responsibility of seatbelt and saftey, You can keep your heads held high and drive around in your puny car with yourself buckled up cos' you are a responsible driver like the expensive car owners.
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Old 20th April 2010, 12:58   #175
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Any photos of the automatic seatbelt? I found one in Wikipedia but it is not detailed.
Saturns from the early nineties had an automatic seatbelt strap. When the engine is switched off, they'd roll and move out of place (for egress). Once you start the car, a motor would move the seatbelt back to secure you in place. Don't remember the exact procedure as I last drove a Saturn in 2001, but it was a pretty cool "out of the box" approach by GM.
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^ Something like this :



I'm surprised they never caught on. Though maybe there are other concerns with safety standards. eg. escaping after an accident (assuming the electricals die) etc.
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Old 24th January 2012, 10:49   #177
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I am a new driver who got my driving license couple of months back. I follow safe driving/riding. I had a tough time convincing people sitting in my car to use seatbelts. In some cases only when I refused to start the car they obliged. Same story for helmets. Me and my GF use helmet when she rides pillion because I think when we should take maximum possible care from our side. Still I see many people arguing against use of helmets. Someone also said wearing seat-belt looks uncool.
My question is how do you to tackle or convince these people. Even though its their head, it can easily be life threatening even before they could realize.

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Lovely thread, this is what i did, and now i have compliance especially from Kids (For others i.e. grown ups just a diktat works)

My daughter is 5 years old and has a habit to sit with mother (my guess is most Indian kids do) and whenever i would explain, either she would not listen or would get closer to crying (as i am stopping her from sitting close to her mother). So in order not to become villain i did not try too hard, until i came up to a thread on team BHP about wearing seat belts which has videos of accidents explaining positives of seat belts.

All i did was show her videos (i think there are two of them) and what also helped is we saw multiple car crashes in last month (Few on the drive on NH7) and one (a Swift banged a pole) recently on our way to Harlur road to her school.

All this has helped in making her understand what i am saying and why i am saying. Yesterday she explained that she would sit on the back seat now onwards and wear seat belts, she also informed me yesterday that when she comes back from school alone with Mummy, sitting on the passenger seat she wears seat belts.
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All i did was show her videos (i think there are two of them) and what also helped is we saw multiple car crashes in last month (Few on the drive on NH7) and one (a Swift banged a pole) recently on our way to Harlur road to her school.
I think you are talking about these videos I had posted http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...-seatbelt.html (THINK! always wear a seatbelt)
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I think a lot of people don't want to wear helmets because they haven't been wearing them when they started riding and they don't want change. That's why I find the youth adhering to the rule better than grown-ups. Almost the entire population of Pune erupted in protest when the PMC tried to make helmets compulsory. They just didn't understand it was for their benefit.

My parents were pleasantly surprised when I volunteered to wear the helmet each time I rode.

I don't think people have a problem doing something to save their own lives; they just don't want change.

I mean helmets? What about all the hair that'll be unsettled and so on. Such people have pea-sized brains.

In my car, there's a strict rule when it comes to seat-belts; people protest but eventually give in. One dude wears them without being told to because his parents were once in an accident and while his mother didn't get a scratch, his father had injuries just because he wasn't wearing the seatbelt. It's these kind of things that make people aware of potential benefits of wearing seat belts.

So, how to convince them?

1) Give them ample examples of how seatbelts/helmets save lives
2) Force them to follow the rule until they are enlightened and don't need to be told.

As I'd said in another thread, there are certain things education or anyone just can't teach you.

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On a related note; banners have been put up across Bangalore to reiterate the seat-belts compulsory rule. It's all in Kannada but seat-belts is written in English and there's Rs. 100/- at the bottom so I put 2+2=4 and assumed it's regarding the seatbelt rule!
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