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Old 15th December 2009, 16:23   #31
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He always complained of back-ache after a drive and I suggested that wearing seat-belt will help as his back would be stuck to the seat all the time and he will not slump into the seat while driving. This idea worked amazingly for him and he is suggesting these things to others now.
I am not sure of the truth behind this logic. But, hey if it makes the journey safer, use it. Some times the phsycological methods work better than any other ways.
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guys, the hard braking and sudden turns may cause injuries to your parents. Please don't try those techniques. You will do more harm than good and there is nothing like calculated risk when concerned with the safety of our family members.

As said by others, Better to take them through some of the accidents that could have been avoided if seat belts were worn etc and make them aware. This may take time but that's the only way that will work.

How many of us are making our kids to wear seat belts. It is more important that we educate the future generation on these. I for one do not do that and i feel i should start it at the earliest.

That's a Good Idea @atul
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I am not sure of the truth behind this logic. But, hey if it makes the journey safer, use it. Some times the phsycological methods work better than any other ways.
I had advised him this because my doctor suggested me that most of the time we have back-ache due to the wrong posture while seating at the workplace. I made him to correct his posture while sitting in driving seat. It worked for him. You might try that to convince them that wearing seatbelt corrects your posture, hence no back-ache. hence seat-belt problem solved.
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How many of us are making our kids to wear seat belts. It is more important that we educate the future generation on these. I for one do not do that and i feel i should start it at the earliest.
Exactly my point. We should atleast enforce the need of the seat belt to our next generation. The use of booster seats and seat belts should be made mandatory by us parents on out children. They may not understand the benefits now, but growing up, they will surely thank you for teaching them a good lesson.

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I had advised him this because my doctor suggested me that most of the time we have back-ache due to the wrong posture while seating at the workplace.

I knew about adopting the right posture at work. Didnt think about applying the same in the car. Good thinking.

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You dont need a DIY for this. Just ensure that you dont start the car unless every one is buckled up.
The DIY would ensure compliance to the seat belt rule even in your absence. (If parents are driving the car in your absence)

But the DIY is easier said than done. Also, how many of us would want to fiddle with the electricals of our brand new cars to ensure compliance to seat belt rule.

As always, blame it on the government. The government should pass a law that car makers should ensure that the vehicle cannot be started unless the driver is wearing the seat belt.

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Old 15th December 2009, 16:42   #36
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The DIY would ensure compliance to the seat belt rule even in your absence. (If parents are driving the car in your absence)
I agree with you completely.

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But the DIY is easier said than done. Also, how many of us would want to fiddle with the electricals of our brand new cars to ensure compliance to seat belt rule.
I think the better way is educating the passengers in the car about the need, atleast this wont deter your warranty.

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As always, blame it on the government. The government should pass a law that car makers should ensure that the vehicle cannot be started unless the driver is wearing the seat belt.
I dont think blaming the govt. is the need of the hour. There have been instances where govt. enforced some rules, and the am janta found some pleasure in breaking the rule. The case of Helmets in Kerala is a good example.
Even if such a mechanism is enforced, I am sure more than 50% of the crowd would want to get the mechanism removed or disabled. And in no time, there would be some small time shops that would specialise in this job.
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I agree with you completely.



I think the better way is educating the passengers in the car about the need, atleast this wont deter your warranty.



I dont think blaming the govt. is the need of the hour. There have been instances where govt. enforced some rules, and the am janta found some pleasure in breaking the rule. The case of Helmets in Kerala is a good example.
Even if such a mechanism is enforced, I am sure more than 50% of the crowd would want to get the mechanism removed or disabled. And in no time, there would be some small time shops that would specialise in this job.
Ya. I remember when the helmet rule was slapped, some interesting protest points emerged. One Dilliwala had commented that if he and his girlfriend rode their bike with helmets put on, then can't enjoy the ride and the kissing and biting!
Another one was, that the rider will not be able to feel the breeze slapping his face!

Like many, I have to enforce the backseating only rule for my daughter, who resists my move equally strong. But papa calls the shots, of course.
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1 feature which I really appreciate in my Vista is a seat belt warning buzzer. The thing just does not stop for almost 2 whole mins & is really irritating enough to compel any 1 in the driver's seat to put on the belt. I just wish the same thing worked for the passenger's seat belt also.
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1 feature which I really appreciate in my Vista is a seat belt warning buzzer. The thing just does not stop for almost 2 whole mins & is really irritating enough to compel any 1 in the driver's seat to put on the belt. I just wish the same thing worked for the passenger's seat belt also.

Guys is it possible to fix this kind of buzzer as a aftermarket fitment in any cars?
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Thanks for the inputs folks.

My parents are now at my place, which is 100 Kms away from where they live. Yesterday they drove down through NH47, now I just asked my dad whether they were wearing seat belts. to my surprise, he said yes, but only him, because cops on NH47 are checking whether the driver is wearing seat belts.

I just asked him to make sure whoever sits with him also wears the seat belts. I told him that now the cops have started checking for the co-passenger's belt also. He agreed.

Few steps I plan to do, after reading the replies

1) First and foremost, creating more awareness - videos, accident threads or whatever content I can access.

2) Try to see if it is possible to make the beep permanent if seat belt is not on. Also plan to tell that the warning LED on the dash will sty on all the time which will lead to more power consumption and lead to poorer FE.

3) Casually telling often about someone I know, getting caught by cops for not wearing belts. (Lies)

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Some great ideas there clevermax. Do let us know the success of your method.

I am sure the lower FE one would definitely prove to be the best of the lot.
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Ya. I remember when the helmet rule was slapped, some interesting protest points emerged. One Dilliwala had commented that if he and his girlfriend rode their bike with helmets put on, then can't enjoy the ride and the kissing and biting!
Another one was, that the rider will not be able to feel the breeze slapping his face!
Kissing and biting? I think it's best i don't get bitten on a bike. There has got to be some difference between a girl and an insect, lol.

Coming back to the topic, I too have had some trouble with my father and the seat belt. My advantage is that he does not drive anymore. I have tried to explain to him over and over, but when someone has never worn a seat belt for 40 years, you cannot just convert him overnight.

I tried it all. YouTube seat belt videos and everything else before coming to a solution that someone else has suggested too.

1) Either get a car that keeps beeping till the seat belt is plugged in. This way everyone goes crazy unitl he/she is buckled up.

2) Refuse to drive till the seat belt is on.

I usually use the 2nd option. I have even instructed the drivers in the house to do the same. There is nothing Dad can do now except wear the seat belt.
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one thing that actually works, but its the hard way.

1) Be involved in a crash where a seatbelt saves you from injury
2) Have a loved one suffer injuries as a result of not wearing a seatbelt.

I've had both happen, and I've seen these incidents change the way people think about seatbelts. Of course, its not practical, but I know they work
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one thing that actually works, but its the hard way.

1) Be involved in a crash where a seatbelt saves you from injury
2) Have a loved one suffer injuries as a result of not wearing a seatbelt.

I've had both happen, and I've seen these incidents change the way people think about seatbelts. Of course, its not practical, but I know they work
I cant agree with you more greenhorn. We had a big accident involving our old 800, where my dad was seriously injured. There were no seat belts on that car. The least we could do was to sell it off and buy a more safer car, we are still contemplating on the one to buy though. No offenses meant for 800 owners.
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All of us in the family insist and insure that each one of us is wearing the seat belt before the car starts to move.

I own a Ritz zxi, which has ELR and height adjustments, that makes it very comfortable to use them and besides, not using the seat belt would make the Airbags non-functional. The sensors of the airbags are also connected to those of the Driver's Seat Belt.

What surprises me the most is that almost all the new cars that I have tested are with drivers who refuse to put on the seat belts. Only when I ask them to get down from the car/take the car back without the test drive that they put them on reluctantly.

When you jam the (ABS) brakes at high speeds, you not only check the stability of the car but the effectiveness of the seat belts as well.

God Bless.....
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