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Old 14th June 2010, 15:41   #301
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It can't be mistaken for anything but a Swift. Still, is it just me or does the front end (especially the bumper/headlamp) looks a wee bit like the i20??
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Will this new swift will be available along side with current version? Knowing Maruti for ages there is a fair chance they will keep both the versions.
it may be current swift will pitted against i10, beat and the new one against 120, Punto!
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Guys zigwheels is saying it will launched in september.

according to them besides increased height, width and wheel base, some more highlighting facts are, all new interiors, 16" alloys and with 1.2L petrol heart pumping out 94PS.

All-new Swift to come in soon! - News - Zigwheels

Looks are not that great (or perhaps I should say not that different) but 16" and 94PS is definitely something

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I haven't found Zigwheels to be particularly reliable & their reviews seems need a lot of improvement.

16" inch alloys - hmmm looking at Maruti's track record seems highly optimistic. Doubt whether they would tune the 1.2 for 94PS considering the huge investment gone into the current 1.2 engine plant, not to mention the cost & reduced FE as a result !
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I haven't found Zigwheels to be particularly reliable & their reviews seems need a lot of improvement.

16" inch alloys - hmmm looking at Maruti's track record seems highly optimistic. Doubt whether they would tune the 1.2 for 94PS considering the huge investment gone into the current 1.2 engine plant, not to mention the cost & reduced FE as a result !
well the current UK version offers 15" Alloys across all variants, but look at what the Indian models have, This time Indian model may have 15" alloys.

Another thought, There may be a premium for 1.2 VTT, which is quiet new, not sure Maruti will bring it to Indian models in order to keep the same price bracket.
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I haven't found Zigwheels to be particularly reliable & their reviews seems need a lot of improvement.

16" inch alloys - hmmm looking at Maruti's track record seems highly optimistic. Doubt whether they would tune the 1.2 for 94PS considering the huge investment gone into the current 1.2 engine plant, not to mention the cost & reduced FE as a result !
+1. Among auto-mags only Autocar and BIKE India can be trusted to quite some extent.

I too think that most probably Variable Valve tech may not make it here.

What I would want is that Maruti should pass the small car excise benefit to customers this time. At least, doing so will negate the price difference between the current and upcoming generation to a certain extent.

Fingers Crossed.
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Default enen times of india carries this news today

it says the launch in India will be in september

here is the link All-new Swift to come in soon! - News - Zigwheels
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it says the launch in India will be in september

here is the link All-new Swift to come in soon! - News - Zigwheels
Yeah but as mentioned before, Zigwheels is not very trustworthy when it comes to such things. I'll wait for Autocar to do some similar report. They are a lot more reliable source of info.


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Yeah but as mentioned before, Zigwheels is not very trustworthy when it comes to such things. I'll wait for Autocar to do some similar report. They are a lot more reliable source of info.


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I believe that it make sense for MSIL to launch new swift same time as in Europe. India is largest market for Swift (and suzuki in general). It does look weird to me ignoring biggest market for the flagship product launch.Also need to remember that with launch of POLO,FIGO and other hatches competition is getting very stiff for MSIL. They must launch this soon as possible to keep the leadership on.

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I don't see the new KB12 engine coming. Remember the original swift came with the old Esteem engine even though internationally it was launched with a new engine and not to mention the new 1.2 L on the swift is very very new by Maruti standards.
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I believe that it make sense for MSIL to launch new swift same time as in Europe. India is largest market for Swift (and suzuki in general). It does look weird to me ignoring biggest market for the flagship product launch.Also need to remember that with launch of POLO,FIGO and other hatches competition is getting very stiff for MSIL. They must launch this soon as possible to keep the leadership on.
Fully agree with that. Suzuki cannot neglect India at all. Just see how they have messed up the model launches! Swift launched with 1.3L esteem engine when the model was made with KB series engine in mind. I recall an interview of a Suzuki persons in a magazine (probably ACI) saying that fixing the1.3L engine to the swift bay which was intended to take the K series engine was the most difficult task they faced in engineering swift for India. Now when the swift has finally received its intended heart, it is about to get replaced! Same thing has happened with Ritz too. By the time Ritz was launched in India, it is almost time for a replacement (however, Maruti was quick to launch swift along with international markets, and it was a straight success). Delayed launches, old engines, the story continues. Hope this does not happen again and Suzuki gets India synchronized with the rest of the world. Suzuki should remember that Indians silently reject those who neglect them (Honda jazz for exorbitant price, Peugeot for outdated mode are some examples).
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What I want to know is what is the use of the new design if they are going to keep the same rear suspension? The car is so bumpy and it literally throws you off your seat.
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Delayed launches, old engines, the story continues. Hope this does not happen again and Suzuki gets India synchronized with the rest of the world. Suzuki should remember that Indians silently reject those who neglect them (Honda jazz for exorbitant price, Peugeot for outdated mode are some examples).
yes, but fat chance that'll happen to the new Swift. I certainly hope it gets the same engines and features in India as abroad, but even if its launched with the current spec engines, I see it again being the most popular "premium" hatchback. For sure I think we can safely say that a few creature comforts will be deleted in the favour of keeping costs down.

The brand perception of both Maruti Sizuki and Swift is extremely tough to de-value in India unless Suzuki botch it up like they did with the Zen; though I find that very unlikely.
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This is really nice. The Swift does require a face-lift; now that the competition is almost at the peak in the hatchback segment. But you can trust Maruti to be right on one front. They never delay any launch. Almost all their launches have been perfectly timed. I feel this is their real secret behind the success. And they also always hit the nail on the head regarding product mix. Somehow no other competitor has been able to get this right here in India.
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What I want to know is what is the use of the new design if they are going to keep the same rear suspension? The car is so bumpy and it literally throws you off your seat.
I beg to differ , i have been driving a Swift VDI since last 2 and a half years ,Dont find ride to be bumpy at all and have never felt that the car throws while cornering on high speed or in bad roads .Also , none seating at the back has ever complained about the same . Infact , i find it to be planted and never felt nervous while doing 120-130 .

From the look of it , i feel new model will be even better .

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