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Old 16th February 2010, 22:04   #31
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Default maruti 800 sales down bcoz of tata nana.

Before nano was shown in 2008, 800 was selling about 5-6000 units a month. Later it slowly fell down to near 2000. I think they will phase out 800 completely few months after nano is open for booking again. Remember lot of people rooting for 800 to stand up aganist nano. I am glad indian made nano proved them wrong.
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Old 17th February 2010, 09:47   #32
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I still remember the day I saw the first M800 on the road, it was in the eighties
Even now thats the car which comes to mind when we speak of Mauti-Suzuki.
That's the ONLY car which comes to my mind when I speak of Maruti-Suzuki (the first M800 you mention, a.k.a SS80), and deserves to!

With the present-day M800, not too many would be sorry the model will be put to rest! And even so, there still will be many 800s still on the roads for a decade or so later atleast.
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Old 17th February 2010, 10:53   #33
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Default M800 been on its way out

The damocle's sword was hanging on the M800 for a long time. The primary reasons were:
  1. Falling sales for the last 3-4 years
  2. Alto is the highest seller
  3. Old dies and other tooling
  4. Old drive train
Finally MUL has decided to pull the plug as ROI is not good for the engine upgrade and getting new dies.

I guess its time for India to move on!
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Well finally yes, saw the news in pune TOI on thursday.

Here is complete news.

End of the road for Maruti 800

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

New Delhi: The small car that changed the way Indians drove and helped put the Indian automobile market into the global big league will stop rolling out of showrooms in major cities from today. It has been driven off the roads by stringent emission laws that the original people’s car is unable to comply with any more.
Powered by a Suzuki collaboration and steered by Sanjay Gandhi’s political ambitions, the Maruti 800 rolled out onto Indian roads 27 years ago. The last of the 27 lakh units were driven out of showrooms in 13 cities on Wednesday, the company having decided that it was not worth pushing for a large investment to upgrade the engine to meet the stricter Euro-IV norms that become mandatory from April 1.
Euro-IV emission standards come into play in major cities, including New Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune, Kanpur, Ahmedabad, Surat and even Agra.
Ford Ikon (1.3 petrol), Fiat Palio, Skoda Fabia (1.2 petrol), Octavia (1.9 TDI engine) and Chevrolet Tavera (2.5DI) too will no longer be sold in the 13 cities, which collectively account for almost half the total car sales in India.
“We were contemplating if we can upgrade the Maruti 800 to comply with new emission norms or not, and have taken a decision to stop selling the car in cities where new norms will be implemented from April 1,” Maruti chairman R C Bhargava had said. In 1983, anyone with a little more than Rs 50,000 to spare — car loans were hard to come by then — drove into the fast lane, leaving behind other affluent and middle-class families which continued to bundle themselves into Fiats and Ambassadors that wheezed and spluttered on pock-marked Indian roads but dominated the licence-raj automobile market. But the Maruti 800 unleashed a monster that grew beyond perhaps even the wildest hopes of its own creators and the unreformed Indian planners of the 1980s.
As the economy globalised and middle-class wallets fattened, the 800 was nudged out by other models.
Once the bread-and-butter model for the company, it witnessed a steady decline in sales in the major metros and Suzuki replaced it with the 800cc Alto. As Alto prices were pushed down by competition, the demand for the Maruti 800 was hit further.
Sales of Maruti 800 declined 37% to 27,088 units in the April-January period of the current fiscal year ending March 31 — in sharp contrast to a 32% jump the firm saw in its overall sales in the same period. However, the model will still be available in many smaller towns where the emission laws are yet to be toughened.
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New Delhi: The small car that changed the way Indians drove and helped put the Indian automobile market into the global big league will stop rolling out of showrooms in major cities from today. It has been driven off the roads by stringent emission laws that the original people’s car is unable to comply with any more.
These over enthusiastic journos are really getting on my nerves. They keep churning out bull???? and think that the public are all fools and will buy any crap they write.

This dude has no idea what the F8D motor is capable of. The Maruti 800's engine is very well capable of being tuned to meet the Euro IV emission norms. Maruti has decided that is no longer prudent to make investments on the ageing 800. Hence they are not upgrading the 800. The very same engine should make its appearance in the Maruti Alto in BS IV guise.

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Bumping an old thread but talking of the M800, we are seeing that every month even after the so called 'phasing out', MSIL has been selling nearly 1500 units on an average and March figures actually increased to over 2000. Come to think of such numbers put even a lot of manufacturers to shame in overall units sold!

Now if this model has been really discontinued then how is it showing up in the sales charts.

Have raised this question many times during the monthly sales thread but a definitive answer is still not clear. Any thoughts on this?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-analysis.html (March 2013 : Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis)
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Bumping an old thread but talking of the M800, we are seeing that every month even after the so called 'phasing out', MSIL has been selling nearly 1500 units on an average and March figures actually increased to over 2000. Come to think of such numbers put even a lot of manufacturers to shame in overall units sold!

Now if this model has been really discontinued then how is it showing up in the sales charts.
The car is still available on sale in Tier 2 cities which follow Euro 3/ BS3 emission standards.
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The car is still available on sale in Tier 2 cities which follow Euro 3/ BS3 emission standards.
Had thought of the same reason till saw this thread - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post2749939 (*Rumour* : Maruti 800 production to end in April 2012)

By this the production was to end in April 2012 itself as per company reports. Now either this has not happened or it was just that we thought the production was completely stopped officially. Hence the confusion.

Now if it is determined that the M800 has not been indeed discontinued then the title of this thread becomes all the more relevant and it would be interesting to know what has Maruti planned for this car!

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I feel they would keep producing it in limited numbers till around Oct -Dec 2014. The new crash norms would kick in effective April 2015 post which they would not be able to sell this car. It's amazing - this car has seen the birth and death of its predecessor - the SS80 and of its successors - the Zen, Alto and still continues to soldier on.

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The emission norms in the tier II cities too will kick in at a later point of time along with higher safety norms. Maruti would probably continue to sell the vehicle till they are able to while being within norms. 1000+ units is a decent number so why not.
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Now if it is determined that the M800 has not been indeed discontinued then the title of this thread becomes all the more relevant and it would be interesting to know what has Maruti planned for this car!
Maruti still lists it in their official website under the list of products. Prices section gives it as 2.25L for std and 2.5L for AC variant.

If they haven't discontinued it till now, I don't see any reason to do it now when the factory capacities are not at 100% utilization.

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Default Re: Maruti phasing out 800?

Though outdated now, small & unsafe and lacks the features of the contemporary cars, but this was the very car that revolutionized the entire Indian auto scenario. When the 800 came to the Indian market, it had features that were unheard of and that too offered at a very affordable price;rightly said - The people's car.

Should it be discontinued, Maruti should ensure a grand farewell to this iconic car & I hope, it just does not ends with small prints on newspapers.

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Maruti still lists it in their official website under the list of products. Prices section gives it as 2.25L for std and 2.5L for AC variant.

If they haven't discontinued it till now, I don't see any reason to do it now when the factory capacities are not at 100% utilization.
That is correct and they have a M800 specific website http://www.maruti800.com/ still up and running which means that this product is very much officially sold by the company and not some made to order exercise. The only thing is that there is no real marketing effort or budget that is being deployed to sell it. Even then 2000 units shipped last month WOW! Such is the equity of this car.

This precisely bring back to the original question that -
  • when will Maruti be finally phasing out this car from all the markets?
  • do they have any plans for this car in terms of upgrades / limited editions etc to increase its sales during a general downturn?
  • also interesting to know who or which region is buying this car in some decent numbers?
Will be good to know updates such as these about one of the highest selling and revolutionary cars of our country.
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