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Old 16th February 2010, 10:47   #31
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Default Style - Price.. there is no real heirarchy of sorts

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From many observations, its clear that in Indian context, style is the second most important factor, next to price..., in the buying process.

Style differentiates cars one another. Take the case of Nano. Why most people refer a Nano to Maruti 800?

Any cars styled properly can be a success in India.

No not necessarily. While it is not logical to compare cars between segments , there are several examples where style (And im including interior quality in my definition of style.) has won over price.

1. The Hyundai i10 sells better than the Xing.
2. The A-Star does better than the Zen Estilo.
3. The city sells better than the Verna, Fiesta, Optra, and Linea (Style is one of the factors in that decision)
4. The Swift sells better than the Indica & Vista
5. The Alto does way better than the 800
6. Endeavour sells better than Safari
7. Xylo sells better than Grande

Similarly, there are poorly styled cars that have failed miserably despite being excellent value

Ofcourse, there are several overlapping factors in the examples citied above, but i still dare to mention them.
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Old 16th February 2010, 11:10   #32
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Wow that 1.3 lit in 1986 developed 105 bhp. It must have been a rocket.
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Old 16th February 2010, 11:33   #33
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Lightbulb Its all about matching personalities

This is a brilliant topic. There was a thread in the past discussing the "image" of various car-brands and I kept on wishing that if there could be a thread at a more granular level talking about individual models rather than broad car-maker brands.

Each car has a personality and a potential buyer is looking for one that matches his persoanlity.

Although priced in similar range, a Civic is way more stylish and sportier than Altis and Laura. So a senior executive is his mid 40's would find the Civic "too stylish" whereas an "young turk" would easily opt for it.

Rather than what they actually like, people worry a lot about how they would be perceived by others. Continuing with the above example, the senior executive might not like to be perceived as "flambouyant" and would rather choose an understated Altis.
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Old 25th May 2014, 18:07   #34
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Default How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

How do you like your car design: Curvy or Edgy?

Edgy: Chevy Beat, Honda Accord, Aventador

Curvy: Linea, Punto, Beetle
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Old 25th May 2014, 18:47   #35
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

I'll go with Edgy. While looks may be subjective. I like my car to be sleek, elegant and understated. Just like the Germans do it. I find the Koreans overdone, especially Hyundai (Elantra, Sonata, Verna etc.). The Japanese are quirky (Brio, City, Innova) and Indian designs are wacky and odd (XUV-500, Indica). The Germans know how to design a car that appeals to everybody.
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

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Indian designs are wacky and odd (XUV-500, Indica). The Germans know how to design a car that appeals to everybody.
Do you really think that indian designs are wacky and odd? I think 1st generation indica is the most beautiful indian hathback till date.
Even indigo cs and nano. Both are cute looking vehicles. And safari looks matcho too. Look at the bolt. It is stunner in red and orange.
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

"Italian" should be a separate design category, and not mixed up with "curvy" designs.

Good Edgy (blocky, straight lines) designs generally age well. They look good even after 5 or 10 years.

Good curvy (including fluidic & kinetic) designs look good initially, but don't age very well.
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

I myself went with Edgy.
I dont know why, but Curvy designs look old, even when they are in the showroom.

Show any kind a pic of a Lambo and a Ferrari, and he'd say Lambo.

PS: I love the way Lambos are designed, but still, I'd get a Ferrari, because they're better around a track. Butt nevertheless, we're talking designs here, so Lambo gets the vote.
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

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I find the Koreans overdone, especially Hyundai (Elantra, Sonata, Verna etc.). The Japanese are quirky (Brio, City, Innova) and Indian designs are wacky and odd (XUV-500, Indica). The Germans know how to design a car that appeals to everybody.

+ 1 to this, I have the exact same feeling, especially on Indian Designs. I am not able to understand what leads engineers to design the new Alto 800, new Wagon R, Mahindra Xylo (front), Tata Indica (all generations, hope to see better design in flesh and blood with Bolt).. Also the quirky chinese designs in Chevrolet Sail and Enjoy.

In many cases, some designs are supposed to be flamboyant but in reality they appear out of place and ugly (alto's front, for example) and the manufacturer has to rework on the design again.. And with Wagon R, I am really not sure if they ever get picked for its outer design.

Some other quirky designs from other European countries, look at the huge wheel arches of Duster.. It doesn't fit Indian city driving conditions. When one drives in thick traffic and would have to constantly negotiate and pick spaces in between cars and move ahead Or while driving in small lanes (with vehicles parked on sides), with the bulky wheel arches, the driver has to be aware not to squeeze through and get a scratch or dent.
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

For a little while, I thought hard on what I would have liked.
For now, my heart is on the Mini. So its curvy I guess
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

Curvy or Edgy doesn't make a car beautiful or ugly.
The WagonR isn't a looker though it is edgy but an edgy Polo looks very elegant.
The Eon or Beat is curvy and that too overdone. A curvy swift looks sporty and has just the right amount of curves.
Further it is nor a great topic to discuss as looks are subjective and being edgy or curvy alone does not define a car's character or looks.
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Is The Punto curvy?? Then its curvy to me. But hey wait, there's this edgy polo too which makes my heart skip every time I see it and then the I20 whose over done curves I am not a fan of also the edgy Wagon R which for all its virtues doesn't have the design going for it.

I believe its all about how well a designer uses the edges or the curves which defines how good a design is rather than the edges or the curves themselves.
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Old 26th May 2014, 00:17   #43
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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

I will vote for both.

If it is an SUV or any practical vehicle I want it edgy. I would say Masculine looking vehicles are edgy.
For other fancy stuff like sports car I want them curvy. For they look voluptuous and desirable if done right like some early european designs eg Delahaye type 175

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Default Re: How do you like your car design: Edgy or Curvy

I like curvy designs which look as if made of a single sheet of metal. Also, no offence meant, but I feel that the examples of curvy cars given in the opening post are not adequate. They do not cover the gamut well.
However, though I voted for curvy, but then I love how the Accord looks, but then Logan is also edgy and I can never digest its looks, which means that just being edgy or curvy may not hold relevance. The jelly bean Zen is curvy, but one of the best looking hatchbacks sold in India. What say?
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