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Old 22nd September 2005, 13:30   #46
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Geez! Let's stop this mutual bashing already. The alliance is good for Tata globally and on another level is good for Fiat in India. Let's leave it at that. A Daimler-Chrysler type partnership would be welcome. As an Indian I hope Tata does well and as a fan of Fiat cars in India I would love to see more Fiat cars on Indian roads - whether they are made by Fiat alone or by Tata.
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Otherwise what after marina? Will they add another piece of metal at back?
I guess you dont know but these are called body styles. Its not only about adding Metal at the back. Your lovely FIAT company also manufactures cars with all body styles. Please go and find another thread to fight.

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I guess you dont know but these are called body styles. Its not only about adding Metal at the back. Your lovely FIAT company also manufactures cars with all body styles. Please go and find another thread to fight.
Yes my lovely company has so many other body styles. But what about yours?

Let me know who started this

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You are free to refer to other models as junk elsewhere - here it is rude, besides being extremely tasteless and childish.

Please understand that this forum is not devoted exclusively to one model and respect the sentiments of other owners. This sort of behaviour is unacceptable.
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You are free to refer to other models as junk elsewhere - here it is rude, besides being extremely tasteless and childish.

Please understand that this forum is not devoted exclusively to one model and respect the sentiments of other owners. This sort of behaviour is unacceptable.
Please note I just pasted a message from yahoo group
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Old 22nd September 2005, 14:28   #52
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According to me, there are 2 factors - the products & the company. I think most people don't have an issue with the products. Speaking for myself, I'd say that the products in this case are very good.

Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about the company, especially the way it has treated the Indian market.

There are competitor products that are as good as / better / worse than this particular company's products.
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You are free to refer to other models as junk elsewhere - here it is rude, besides being extremely tasteless and childish.

Please understand that this forum is not devoted exclusively to one model and respect the sentiments of other owners. This sort of behaviour is unacceptable.
Even though I am big fan and owner of Fiat car, I found those comments on Indica really tasteless. I agree with you, Steeroid!

@hasopi, it doesn't matter if you just pasted those comments. It means that you either endorse them or want others to have a look at them, which is almost as good as endorsing.
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hasopi, If Tata is so desperate to get Fiat help (as you put it) why are Fiat fans more excited about this news ??
I really find it funny how most Fiat lovers are so desperate to prove how their cars are superior...is no one ever objective ?
I own a Indica, but doesnt mean I am not gonna accept its faults or the company *confused*
I have no problems saying Palio seems the better car either !
And in the poll , what is Fait

I would vote for a 3rd option, can't say till more details are out
I do not think any Fiat fans will be excited.
Fiat makes solid cars and my personal experience with their ASS
is very Good. The Palio's are far cry from any comparitive cars and that is no secret.

having said that, TATA's are a sign mark of India's auto industry.
They make some solid Disel vehicles which can hold a light to anybody. The Indigo-Marina is a beauty and a charmer to look and drive.
Tata's can pick up some petrol engine technology from Fiat and can launch ore world class cars.

If a TATA Car comes in the Future which can compare itself to Civic's, Accord's and Corolla's, then their Job is well done.

They already have solid presence in SUV's

The end game here for me as an Indian is to see an Indian Compny like TATA becoming a great Automobile Comapny world wide.

As for Fiat: Le us leave them alone. If they pull up, the market will recognise it Or else they will simply perish

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^ I agree with RX, Hasopi. The Indica for all its flaws is a decent car. And Fiat for all its lineage and pedigree can learn from Tata on how to sell cars, while teaching Tata how to make them better.
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totally agree Type O *thumbs up*
I never started a slanging match here, just wanted to show what attitide "some" Fiat fans (or fanatics?) had...hasopi, I am sorry if I said anything wrong but I never said anything that you think I said (in your do you want to say Tata etc post)

I was just saying that any fans/owners of Tata cars did not post this trhead abt Fiat , rather it was Fiat fans doing it...I for one own a Tata but am a fan of Fiat too...is it so hard to comprehend ?

On the othr hand your comment on body styles is childish
just a reminder - Palio - Petra - Adventure 'nuff said
Anyways I dont want to have a fight, if this agreement helps both companies it well and good..I totally respect Fiat AND Tata (for different reasons).
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Default Fiat SpA and Tata Motors sign MoU on alliance

Its a coming together of two giants in the world of automobiles.
Fiat and Tata Motors have signed an MoU to to analyse the
feasibility of co-operation, across markets, in the area of
passenger cars that would encompass development, manufacturing,
sourcing and distribution of products, aggregates and components.


Fiat SpA and Tata Motors have signed a Memorandum of Understanding
(MoU) to analyse the feasibility of co-operation, across markets, in
the area of passenger cars that would encompass development,
manufacturing, sourcing and distribution of products, aggregates and
components.

Following the MoU, a joint team would be set up by the two companies
to determine the feasibility and specificity of the nature of
cooperation, both in the short and long term. If found feasible, the
two companies will enter into definitive agreements in the course of
the coming months.

Ratan Tata, Chairman of the Tata Group and Tata Motors, said, "Both
companies will benefit from this alliance in terms of possible joint
product development, shared platforms and aggregates."

Tata further said, "We are delighted to be in dialogue with the Fiat
Group on the range of possibilities between the two corporations.
Fiat is a globally respected corporation, with a long-standing
presence in automobiles."

Sergio Marchionne, CEO of Fiat SpA said, "The MoU is a step in
Fiat's strategy that calls for targeted alliances across the
automobile value chain."

He further said, "It is consistent with successful ventures
established with premier partners including PSA Peugeot Citroen and
Suzuki, and the recently announced signing of a MoU with Ford Motor
Co."


Atleast TATA respects FIAT.. :-)
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Hmm ... so things are moving ..

where did this report come out ?
I mean could you please give the link ?
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Thumbs up Win-win situation for both

I think that this alliance can benefit both companies.

The Palio is a great car..but Fiat made the cardinal mistake of poor support and a hopeless communication gap. The service network and marketing of Tata can help them rectify this.

The Indica is a product I have great respect for because it is the first time an Indian manufacturer showed us the cars of respectable quality could be produced in India without selling old products of other foreign companies. And look at the improvements they made on the Indica V2....I don't think there is a single manufacturer in India who made that level of improvement on a model as Tata did with the V2. That said Tatas have crucial improments to make on quality of transmission, engine refinement and quality of interiors. Which Fiat I think does very well. So Tata expand their learning curve there.

Either way my opinion is that both companies can gain here..if they put there mind to it. Now as to which is the better product...i think that is a matter of personal choice and priority as there are no really sub-standard products on the market now.

Drive on,
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We now have 3 threads running in parallel on this topic - one each started by v_s_natarajan,pranil and hasopi, and the originator of this latest thread has been involved in the other 2 as well.



As such this latest post doesnt contain anything radically different. SUggest that the three threads are combined, or this latest one deleted.
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