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Old 24th April 2010, 22:22   #196
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Monitors speed and feeds fuel accordingly. However. climbing a hill or an incline will be slow and a struggle. I was experiementing in 5th going up from an underpass and my EPC light came on since the fuel mixture became too rich due to the the strain .

In an auto box, the car merely downshifts so mixture is at the optimum
Hey Ajmat / Alto, Thanks for the info. Does this means that the system only maintains top speed limits, and on slowing down manual downshifts are necessary?
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Hey Ajmat / Alto, Thanks for the info. Does this means that the system only maintains top speed limits, and on slowing down manual downshifts are necessary?
It maintains set speed limit (>40kmph for Civic). On pressing acceleraor/ brake/ clutch CC is cancelled. This is what I have read on this forum.
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Press the CC button to activate. Take your foot off the throttle. It will maintain the speed when it was activated.

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On pressing acceleraor/ brake/ clutch CC is cancelled.
In addition it can be cancelled by a button too.
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Default Test driven Jetta CRDI

Took the test drive of the jetta comfortline crdi 2.0 shadow blue

First impressions
The colour awesome resembled a merc
Chrome done very well looked great
Interiors with beige leather awesome
Front seats come with electric lumbar support - worthy
Multi info display really cool - even the intensity of footwell lighting adjustable
Has digital speedo along with analog - nice adition
Shows what gear u r and also when to upshift & downshift for better mileage- nice
Seats-- comfy(i am a 6 + so imagine)
Security- ultrasound 'plus' detects any intrusion- maybe even a fly

Test drive
took the car for a spin first thing i noticed is this car is heavy and built like a tank
u can feel the safety already
the second thing u,ll notice is the crdi engine which is a little noisy, filters into the cabin but the grunt is like a sports car -- vroooooom
suspension - marvelous- no body roll,
handling - good
turning radius- 5.4 m easy to manouver for its size
ground clearance - okay didnt bottom on speed breakers
breaking - awesome (ABS,EBD ,ASR- motorized disc breaks)
did a sudden breaking from 90kmph not even a slight skid , no screach just came to a steady halt
Pick up- could not appreciate but definitely good , no turbolag thats why could'nt appreciate the pull.

execpt for the engine noise rest all impressed ( but if you like the sporty grunt you,ll love it.)
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Took the test drive of the jetta comfortline crdi 2.0 shadow blue

Pick up- could not appreciate but definitely good , no turbolag thats why could'nt appreciate the pull.

execpt for the engine noise rest all impressed ( but if you like the sporty grunt you,ll love it.)
Are you sure about the zero turbolag part. There were some very adverse remarks from international test drives on the 2L TDI-CR engine of VW.
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Nice first impression! Looks like a worthy buy for that segment!
Couple of questions:

- How is front cabin space to store items. Any changes there?
- Did you get any quote/claim on the mileage from the sales guy?
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Are you sure about the zero turbolag part. There were some very adverse remarks from international test drives on the 2L TDI-CR engine of VW.
I read the first drive review of the Jetta CRDI in ACI. I was shocked to see the in gear acceleration times, they atleast 5seconds quicker each compared to the PD engined Jetta. Since the Laura has the same engine now i cannot wait to TD both these cars.

In-Gear Acceleration
---------------------Jetta CRDi----- Jetta PD
20-80kph(3rd gear) 6.93secs ------11.99secs
40-100kph(4th gear) 8.65secs ------14.31secs


Torque- 25.5kgm@1500-4000rpm
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Went to see the new CRDi Passat (Executive) today. Interiors and genuine subtleness in looks is impressive. Beige looked awesome but definitely going to be hard to maintain. But news to most would be about how the engine fairs.

Going to TD it tomorrow (28th).

The ex-showroom Jalandhar price for "Passat TDI 2.0 Exclusive" is Rs. 24.53 lakhs.
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Went to see the new CRDi Passat (Executive) today. Interiors and genuine subtleness in looks is impressive. Beige looked awesome but definitely going to be hard to maintain. But news to most would be about how the engine fairs.

Going to TD it tomorrow (28th).

The ex-showroom Jalandhar price for "Passat TDI 2.0 Exclusive" is Rs. 24.53 lakhs.
I thought the Passat diesel had been discontinued. The VW site has been updated and the Passat brochure indicates only the 1.8 TSi option.

Are they offering you the diesel available earlier ?
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Went to see the new CRDi Passat (Executive) today. Interiors and genuine subtleness in looks is impressive. Beige looked awesome but definitely going to be hard to maintain. But news to most would be about how the engine fairs.

Going to TD it tomorrow (28th).

The ex-showroom Jalandhar price for "Passat TDI 2.0 Exclusive" is Rs. 24.53 lakhs.
Is the Passat 2.0TDi still available? I thought only the 1.8 TSi was available now..
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Nice first impression! Looks like a worthy buy for that segment!
Couple of questions:

- How is front cabin space to store items. Any changes there?
- Did you get any quote/claim on the mileage from the sales guy?

There is enough space:
Below front seats : Drawer type space below front seats
Middle arm rest : Nice space to fit in all your cds
Glove box with cooling facility
Both Doors have1 litre bottle holders

About the mileage thesales guy said averge 15 -16 / litre where as long drives u can get upto 19 / litre

coming to the pick up i feel there was no urgency to shift gears
The tubo kick in (pull / tug ) could not be appreciated- maybe due to the linear acceleration even when the pedal was floored
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the suspension setup and ride dynamics

The engine noise level was high compared to my verna crdi
and as i am used to the turbo kick in after 1800 rpm in verna which drags u along i may have under estimated the turbo lag in jetta

one thing is for sure jetta feels like more of a comfort car rather than fun to drive, rip me as u like kind of car - personal opnion

if anybody else has driven the new jetta please post ur comments on engine noise and pick up and also which colour appealed to you the best
i liked the shadow blue
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Is the Passat 2.0TDi still available? I thought only the 1.8 TSi was available now..
No right now the only model available in the passat is 1.8 TSI they have discontinued all deisel models thats what the sales guy told me when i went to take the test drive of the Jetta

And even the DSG is not available in the Jetta until further notice(for atleast 6 months) as VW has outsold the DSG and is in high demand - as told by the sales guy.
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Is the Passat 2.0TDi still available? I thought only the 1.8 TSi was available now..
Yeah, thats my thought also... This could be a case of stock clearance.

The VW India website is now updated for Passat and only 1.8 TSI is the option provided there. For Jetta, the website still looks like a work-in-progress case (as of this morning).
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I read the first drive review of the Jetta CRDI in ACI. I was shocked to see the in gear acceleration times, they atleast 5seconds quicker each compared to the PD engined Jetta. Since the Laura has the same engine now i cannot wait to TD both these cars.

In-Gear Acceleration
---------------------Jetta CRDi----- Jetta PD
20-80kph(3rd gear) 6.93secs ------11.99secs
40-100kph(4th gear) 8.65secs ------14.31secs

Torque- 25.5kgm@1500-4000rpm
Well, in that report if you compare the 0-100 timing, the Jetta CR lags the Jetta PD till about 60kph speed, and then it wakes up to beat the PD when it reaches the 100kph mark. Does it mean the turbolag in the Jetta CR is more than the lag in Jetta PD ?
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Well, I drove the Passat yesterday. The lady at VW Jalandhar (Lally Motors) kept insisting that the Passat has always been available with a CRDi engine. She wouldn't let me complete my sentence when trying to say that CRDi has only been recently introduced (?). Was this the PD car? VW said NO. I tried thrice. The customer or well a college guy coming for a TD isn't the King for them. So whatever. :P

Anyways, I got more involved with the experience driving a DSG for the first time. Power delivery was smooth and there wasn't any tractor like or even general diesel character noise. (I'm comparing to Skoda's PD diesels) Even with windows down. It wasn't the TSI either. :P

Had always admired the executive looks of Passat. Even the interiors were well looking. It looks are good in real as it does in pictures. But the drive made me lose all the impression I had for this car. It will serve well for families or elders. Not for zooming through traffic. Bit disappointed with this, but I was expecting it...

Especially at Rs. 24.5 Lakhs ex-showroom, this isn't going to be what I'll want with me later this year (im getting a new car!!!!!!).

Also went to Krishna Skoda, Jalandhar to try the Superb. They said they'll call me when one arrives on someone's "order" or something.

I'm feeling that the 320d test drive will be the last one I'll conduct in my search.

Btw, Is the Audi 2.0 TDI the same to drive as this Passat? Should I really expect a difference? Since they are pretty much put up together similarly.

The quote scan for Passat is attached. Is the spec the same for the CRDi? 140 Hp and 320 Nm torque?

Is this not PD? I have no idea.
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