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Old 13th March 2010, 21:26   #31
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I'm thinking of replacing my Verna, and asked about the Jetta. The PD engine has been stopped for good, and the Kochi dealer has no stock left. They expect the new car by April end, and bookings are open at Rs. 1 lac. No info on pricing or tech specs. The sales guy mentioned that "all models are having engine change"- might have meant the Passat also.
Hi Yeldo, did the Kochi dealer mention if there is an engine change for the Jetta petrol version also?
An upgrade from the current insipid 1.6 petrol to a TSI engine with DSG box could help them to turnaround their fortunes. Even with all the reliability issues being discussed about the VW sibling Skoda, the stripped down Laura 1.8 TSI is getting good reviews all around.
Jetta 1.8 TSI with 6/7-speed DSG in a rightly priced comfortline trim would be awesome!
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Got a call from the sales executive from my local dealership last evening. His inputs
1. The 1.6L petrol engine on the Jetta is history. To be replaced with-not known, but he repeatedly mentioned that the new engine will be competing with Civic & Altis.
2. The 1.9 PD DSG comfortline may be discontinued as it is not selling in reasonable numbers.
3. He would neither confirm nor deny replacement of PD with CRDi

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Volkswagen does sell the Jetta with multiple diesel engines around the world.

Amongst these are a 2.0 TDI (with CRDI ) unit that puts out 140 PS and 320 NM and a 2.0 TDI ( also CRDI ) unit that puts out 170 PS and 350 NM. Both engines are Euro IV compliant and should be the ideal choice for them. Currently, both these engines ply on the Jetta and Passat sold in the UK. On the petrol front, the 1.8 TSI mated to the DSG gearbox would be an absolute cracker. Any one who owns / has driven the Jetta can vouch for the fact that the car handles simply brilliantly. With this engine, the Jetta would have everything it takes to beat the Civic / Altis in every way. ( IMO, it already does that in the Safety, Build Quality and Handling department )

I own a Jetta since July '09 and have clocked about 7000km. No troubles what so ever with the PD engine. Approx 11 kmpl in the city and 15.xx on the highway. All I can say is that with a new engine, an already good car will become even better.
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Hi Yeldo, did the Kochi dealer mention if there is an engine change for the Jetta petrol version also?
Sorry, as I had no interest in a petrol, I did not ask about it. He just mentioned that "all engines are changing". I shall be going by Friday or Saturday to make my booking, so shall ask around.
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Hi I got a call from VW Coimbatore today. The 1.9pd engine has been replaced with a 2.0l crdi engine producing 140 bhp. The passat diesel has been discontinued and it has been replaced with the 1.8tsi petrol. The DSG gearbox has been discontinued on all it's models. Only manual transmission is available.

The on road pricing is given below

Jetta trendline(2.0 diesel)- 1610000
Jetta comfortline(2.0 diesel)- 1790000
Passat (1.8 tsi)- 2120000
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Hmmm, Just wondering, did VW stop all DSG boxes as there were too many complaints with them on our congested roads?

Appears to be the case. Why would they stop both Jetta and Passat DSG.
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Hi I got a call from VW Coimbatore today. The 1.9pd engine has been replaced with a 2.0l crdi engine producing 140 bhp. The passat diesel has been discontinued and it has been replaced with the 1.8tsi petrol. The DSG gearbox has been discontinued on all it's models. Only manual transmission is available.

The on road pricing is given below

Jetta trendline(2.0 diesel)- 1610000
Jetta comfortline(2.0 diesel)- 1790000
Passat (1.8 tsi)- 2120000
Uh oh...i was seriously considering the DSG Comfortline and even the diesel passat. Are you sure there will be no diesel passat? This is not very good news for me. No auto transmission available..Thats not good either. :(
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No petrol Jetta and no diesel Passat? This is very strange.

Hope to see the 1.8TSI in the Jetta soon, mated to a DSG.
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Sorry, as I had no interest in a petrol, I did not ask about it. He just mentioned that "all engines are changing". I shall be going by Friday or Saturday to make my booking, so shall ask around.
Thanks Yeldo! I am hoping that Jetta will have the petrol 1.8 in their new line-up. Even though the diesel Jetta makes more sense, for me the petrol option maybe a good option as the usage will be much lower than the normal standards (will be used by my parents in Kerala, and they seldom go out)
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The 1.8tsi is available only for the Passat. The Jetta is offered with either a 1.4Tsi, 1.4 Tsi Sports or a 2.0 Tsi petrol engine.

In which case the obvious choices are either the 1.4Tsi with 122PS@5000rpm with 147Lbs.ft of torque @1500rpm OR the 1.4 Tsi from the Jetta Sport with 160PS@5000 rpm with 177 Lbs.ft of torque @1500rpm.

Both engines are offered with a 6 speed manual gear box with prices starting at GBP17090 for the S and GBP19,925 for the Sports.

So, the Jetta will take the fight to the Civic and Altis on the power and not on cubic capacity.
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@khoj: What you have mentioned is the engine options in overseas market. Even here in Singapore Jetta is sold with 3 variants - the entry level 1.6, and the two 1.4 options you mentioned above, mated with 7-speed DSG. But this does not mean that they'll bring the 1.4 TSI to india. Its good if it happens, but the fuel quality in India could be an issue then.
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Volkswagen does sell the Jetta with multiple diesel engines around the world.

Amongst these are a 2.0 TDI (with CRDI ) unit that puts out 140 PS and 320 NM and a 2.0 TDI ( also CRDI ) unit that puts out 170 PS and 350 NM. Both engines are Euro IV compliant and should be the ideal choice for them. Currently, both these engines ply on the Jetta and Passat sold in the UK. On the petrol front, the 1.8 TSI mated to the DSG gearbox would be an absolute cracker. Any one who owns / has driven the Jetta can vouch for the fact that the car handles simply brilliantly. With this engine, the Jetta would have everything it takes to beat the Civic / Altis in every way. ( IMO, it already does that in the Safety, Build Quality and Handling department )

I own a Jetta since July '09 and have clocked about 7000km. No troubles what so ever with the PD engine. Approx 11 kmpl in the city and 15.xx on the highway. All I can say is that with a new engine, an already good car will become even better.
The main reason why VW is replacing the PD engine is because it does not meet the latest pollution norms. The PD has already been phased out in the USA and the CRDI VW is now selling well there. As far as performance is concerned, the PD too is a good engine.
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Hi I got a call from VW Coimbatore today. The 1.9pd engine has been replaced with a 2.0l crdi engine producing 140 bhp. The passat diesel has been discontinued and it has been replaced with the 1.8tsi petrol. The DSG gearbox has been discontinued on all it's models. Only manual transmission is available.

The on road pricing is given below

Jetta trendline(2.0 diesel)- 1610000
Jetta comfortline(2.0 diesel)- 1790000
Passat (1.8 tsi)- 2120000
Your information is correct. Volkswagon Delhi West has also confirmed this.In addition, they said that the automatic will come in June/July this year. The prices you mentioned seem to be OTR?
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good that they are bringing in newer tech to ensure lower emissions without compromising performance and power.
I guess the Crdi engines will come at a premium in price though.
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I wonder what effect the new VW Passat with a 1.8 TSI will have on the Superb 1.8 TSI, particularly when VW brings in the automatic DSG later in the year? Both cars seem to be priced almost at par.

For one, besides the badge, those who drive themselves may prefer the Passat as it is slightly shorter in length than the Superb. Plus, Skoda has a poor image for its a.s.s. and costly spares, etc. But I have a feeling the Superb will have more features than its rival.
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