Go Back   Team-BHP > Indian Cars > The Indian Car Scene

The Indian Car Scene Swifts, Vtecs, Mahindras, Nanos and everything else on the Indian Car Scene.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10th June 2008, 23:44   #541 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Rahulk76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pune
Posts: 549
Default

cheers:

Varun, You took the words right out of mind. I am and was told the same thing by well wishers (enigmatic problems), but I took a plunge and burnt my hands, but then I had to sell it off for the same reasons.
I wonder when will tata learn a lesson or we tell them that plz dont take us for a ride with your QC.
These are my own opinions.. I know lots of people who have had a good safari piece and those who didnt, but then I feel bad for the state of affairs w.r.t such breakdowns one has to bear. Some do have patience to wither along, but now ..I lack it.
No guesses from vehicles from other stables are really doing fine QC wise.

Cheers
Rahul
Quote:
Originally Posted by varunroy View Post
Those are the lucky few or people who don't use there machine the way they are ment to be. You can't blame bad roads for suspension problem for what is claimed to be an an Off-roader within 2000 Kms. I know a guy who has owned a safari for 3 years and done just 20K on the odo. He is regular member at the TASS with some issue or the other and yet sings songs about Tata Quality for the simple fact that nobody should take him for a s****r.

A brand new 2.2 dropped dead within a fortnight of purchase. The dazed Customer was told the fuel was adulterated. This heavy weight got his gang and beat up the fuel station guys. He even broke an attenders arm. The Gas Station owner agreed to pay all the damages to this customer. TASS stuggled with their laptops to reset the ECU for over a week and then habitually started replacing parts systematically to get the thing started and when nothing happened they replaced the engine under warranty. Everytime I go to their workshop, which is quite often, I see a safari engine being replaced under warranty.

Why else would they offer you a chance to win a Safari on a purchase of Victa or a DI. (Coutersy Tata Ad on Neo Sport)

So long....

Last edited by Rahulk76 : 10th June 2008 at 23:45.
Rahulk76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2008, 23:54   #542 (permalink)
BHPian
 
sudipt123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 140
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
This is the point, Workshop guys who are working on Tata vehicles would tell you this. How much ever you try to fix it, problem re-appears. In my case at least two close sources with solid experience in Tata vehicles discouraged me buying a Tata due to the same reason. This was two years ago, but from these forums I understand that things have changed, many Tata owners vouch for the Tata quality on these forums.
What you are quoting my friend, is indeed a rare breed- The people who are satisfied with the quality of their vehicles.
sudipt123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2008, 10:44   #543 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
supremeBaleno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Weekdays at DetroitOfIndia (Chennai) & Weekends at VeniceOfTheEast (Alappuzha).
Posts: 2,509
Default

varun, hope your ordeal is over soon and you get a replacement ASAP.

dr.pullockaran, hope you get justice too.

After reading MadMonkey's thread on his Fiesta-D, which turned out to be a lemon, with lots of issues, and with Ford agreeing to replace the car (albeit with some cash outgo from MM), I guess it makes sense for Tata to replace this defective Sumo and get it over with, instead of dragging the case for ever, which would only get them negative publicity.
__________________
Suzuki Baleno : 91bhp @ 5500rpm, 130.5Nm @ 3000 rpm, 14kmpl in city @ 100% a/c.
Fun & economy needn't be mutually exclusive.
supremeBaleno is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2008, 13:05   #544 (permalink)
SUV
BHPian
 
SUV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: BLR
Posts: 248
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by varunroy View Post
Thanks everyone for the good wishes, encouragement and the pep up.

SUV, you forget that Manipal Motors are OP3 (opposite party) in this case. Tata Motors being OP1 and Bangalore RO OP2. Besides, there's nothing much that the dealer can do. Its the quality of the spares that let us down. The entire Job is being handled by The Tata Engineers directly. Infact MM is working like a Robot with the controls in TM's hands. Moreover, I personally feel that MM are far superior in their outlook. I have seen all the TASS in bangalore and few other places as well and would still recommend MM. I have no hang ups with MM and prefer the known devil any day.

And don't forget they are the No. 1 workshop in India for Tata Motors.

So long....
Agreed ...

My Point is why would OP3 fix the issues, if they did then its like the OP accepting that their were problem's in your Vehicle and also their
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Deficiency in Service [/SIZE][/FONT]thereby making Tata's (OP1) agree that they sold a lemon to you ..... not to mention the false information the OP's have given in this case which amounts to making a mockery of the Judicial System .....
SUV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th June 2008, 21:10   #545 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chennai
Posts: 74
Default

Varun,

I hope that sense finally prevails and TM comes around and replaces your vehicle. Please do keep up the pressure on your tormentors.

Regards,
lsjey
__________________
-------------
2000 - > Wagon R Lxi
Pre 2000 -> Nataraja service
lsjey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st July 2008, 14:43   #546 (permalink)
BHPian
 
sbasak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: CCU-LTN
Posts: 591
Default

What I don't understand, why Tata is simply not replacing the car with a new one? It seems that Varun's car can hardly be fixed. It won't cost a fortune to Tata to give him a new car. They should do it to restore their reputation.
__________________
Gearbox acts as torque multiplier.
sbasak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st July 2008, 23:17   #547 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 350
Default

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbasak View Post
What I don't understand, why Tata is simply not replacing the car with a new one? It seems that Varun's car can hardly be fixed. It won't cost a fortune to Tata to give him a new car. They should do it to restore their reputation.
Far from it. They don't even want to acknowledge that there is a problem, even though it means replacing the parts again and again and again. They never seem to get tired of replacing parts. On 5th dec, 07 when the vehicle was left at the W/S ,they changed the complete clutch kit, Power steering gear box, seat belts, and stuff worth almost 100K. Like a good friend on this forum congratulated me on getting two cars for the cost of one. (The cost of replaced parts amount almost to the cost of the car) End of season sale - Buy one and take one free.

After driving for less than 500 kms all the problems returned once again and then the replacements start all over. It was the same story before the Court verdict and the same after it. On 3 occassions they informed me that the vehicle was ready for delivery and each time I had to tell them they have not done certain works that are mentioned in my complaint list. They then order the parts, wait for a week or so before replacing it. Imagine my plight ever since I bought this vehicle. I have never been able to enjoy the new car even for a moment without having the fear that it would go back to the W/S.

The Tata Motors guys never seem to have their visiting cards with them. They are scared to give you their mobile Nos and e-mail Ids. Even the mobile numbers given by them comes with a pre-warning that the mobile belongs to their friends but they do me a favour and let me talk to them.

And you talk about REPUTATION.... AH

So long....
varunroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd July 2008, 01:47   #548 (permalink)
BHPian
 
AbhiJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 636
Default

Varun ... I really hope that you get your due from Tata...

As an ex Indica V2 owner, all I can say is that I am not buying another Tata product for at least the next decade.

My overall experience of owning that car was pathetic!
AbhiJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd July 2008, 10:59   #549 (permalink)
BHPian
 
AirWind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 422
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AbhiJ View Post
Varun ... I really hope that you get your due from Tata...

As an ex Indica V2 owner, all I can say is that I am not buying another Tata product for at least the next decade.

My overall experience of owning that car was pathetic!
@Varun - I pray your ordeal ends soon; seeing this thread, I have decided to avoid (and even recommending to someone) any TATA vechicle.
__________________
***Improve the Indian Economy: Be Indian...Buy Indian***

Last edited by AirWind : 2nd July 2008 at 11:03.
AirWind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd July 2008, 12:17   #550 (permalink)
BHPian
 
gshanky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Coimbatore / Bangalore / New York
Posts: 151
Default

WOW!! I spent the last two hours reading this thread and really disappointed with TATA

Hats off to Varun and his family for continuing this fight with lots of hope and determination against all the disappointment and frustrations.
__________________
2003 330xi
1992 SC300
------------------
2009 Scorpio sle
gshanky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd July 2008, 23:31   #551 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 350
Default

Quote:
I hope that sense finally prevails and TM comes around and replaces your vehicle. Please do keep up the pressure on your tormentors.
Tata Motors have been forced to pull out this ( SUMO VICTA GX TC ) model from the market. Thanks, largely to this thread on this forum. Team-bhp has become a force to reckon with and cannot be ignored by any automobile maker in the present scenario.

They are unable to get a new vehicle even for a test drive to compare the pick-up and torque with my vehicle. I have insisted that I shall not take delivery of my vehicle unless a new car of the same model is available and driven over a fixed distance and the timings compared. Suggestion for any other mode of testing the engine condition of my vehicle is welcome from all members.

Whats even more scary is that what would I do if the new vehicle is as bad as my present one , or maybe even worse. Thats the confidence I have on Tata Motors right now. No more Tata Cars for me in this life.

So long....
varunroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2008, 21:24   #552 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: bangalore
Posts: 114
Default whats the latest.

Varun,

Whats the latest news about your car? Have you taken delivery of the car as yet ? How is the the post Repairs performance ?

We are all waiting impatiently for a fovourable response and a possitive finale of the whole episode. Your fight against the unjust has been long & tedious and I am sure you shall come up successful in the end.

God bless.....
soccer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th July 2008, 19:31   #553 (permalink)
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: India
Posts: 358
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbasak View Post
What I don't understand, why Tata is simply not replacing the car with a new one? It seems that Varun's car can hardly be fixed. It won't cost a fortune to Tata to give him a new car. They should do it to restore their reputation.
What good would an a new vehicle do if it suffers from same problem as the present one? Tata know all about the quality (lack off) of their vehicles.

Better would be to offer another vehicle from the Tata line-up, and seek closure. And [s]hope[/s] pray that the other vehicle doesn't have as many issues.

EDIT: What's the code for strikethrough?! Humpf.

Last edited by SuperSyn : 10th July 2008 at 19:35.
SuperSyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2008, 22:40   #554 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 350
Default

[quote]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSyn View Post
What good would an a new vehicle do if it suffers from same problem as the present one? Tata know all about the quality (lack off) of their vehicles.

As most of you are aware, the vehicle is lying at the Manipal Motors Workshop after I refused to take delivery of it.

Right now the the matter is being taken up at National Consumer Redressal Forum at New Delhi. The first hearing is coming up on the 12th of this month. Whatever be the outcome atleast I will have the satisfaction of doing my best.

As always, Grateful for all your blessings and good wishes.

So long....
varunroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2008, 23:10   #555 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 1,861
Default

Very best wishes, as ever, for your success.
Thad E Ginathom is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Geneva Auto Show: Tata Motors unveils the Tata Elegante navdeep The International Automotive Scene 45 25th April 2009 05:33
Is TATA motors about to go bust? Tstag The Indian Car Scene 52 28th March 2009 23:50
TATA Motors may pull out of Singur-Ratan Tata. Update: Pull out announced! nickatnite The Indian Car Scene 651 6th October 2008 15:44
Tata Motors - Fiat typeOnegative The Indian Car Scene 56 19th December 2006 11:00


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 13:40.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Team-BHP.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607