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Old 5th June 2006, 15:28   #301
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Guess its Tata to TATA!
Just wondering how Tata is still getting this sales figure, (15-20 % increase every year..)Kudos to there sales team..
but if this type of A.S.S. continues with Tata management not taking a note of it, It will definetly decline in future

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Old 5th June 2006, 20:19   #302
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I don't understand this. Both seats were replaced (twice) and then refused? Did they break again or is the "seat" and "seat assy" different.
Good luck and hang in there, mate.
Gears,
Red-One.
You are right. They have broken again. Actually right from the time they were replaced they were squeaking but these guys refused to accept it. They have refused replacement because it is now out of Manufacturers Warranty(18 months) and seats are not covered under extended warranty(further 18 months). Anyway, I am just waiting for the verdict. I will have to file another case , should Tatas decide to appeal in the higher court,depending on the outcome of this case.

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Whats the scene with the case itself? I thought we had a decision by May 11?
Unfortunately, the President or the Judge is on medical leave and no one is sure as to when he is returning. I have no other choice but wait.

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Which is why I'm surprised the verdict is taking so long. Based on what Varun has told us here, this is an open and shut case where Tata Motors stands no chance whatsoever.
The verdict was supposed to be pronounced on the 11th, but then things have taken a different turn. You are right. It is an open and shut case but the process has to go on. I guess its just my bad luck that I have to wait so long.

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I personally have much better experiences with them, so I am interested in both sides of the story. Unfortunately we wont get to hear that part here or anywhere else other than in court.
Once the verdict is out, I shall post the entire proceedings of the case date wise. I can even do it now because what I shall be posting is the absolute truth for which I have all the supporting Documents. In fact my aim is to bring out everything in the open so that others can take care in future and also advise me on handling my case better.

So long....
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Old 5th June 2006, 23:50   #303
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Unfortunately, the President or the Judge is on medical leave and no one is sure as to when he is returning. I have no other choice but wait. [quote]


You think the unthinkable has happened... you know... Tata and the Judge.....

Well if Jessica Lal can happen!!
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Tata Does Lacks Quality n Refinement.

here in Jalandhar, i have seen new Safari(old model) engine seized
within 2 months.

ALso...... 1 week ago i saw a Brand new DiCOR engine being Overhauled.

Damm with TATA.
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Tata Does Lacks Quality n Refinement.

ALso...... 1 week ago i saw a Brand new DiCOR engine being Overhauled.

Damm with TATA.
The Guy who owns this Dicor is probably ignorant. No way, I would let them open a new Engine and insist on its replacement. Once the Factory fitted Engine is overhauled it looses its charm. I mean a diesel engine is supposed to be overhauled after 3 laks + Kms.

One of the points made by me against the Tatas at the Consumer Forum is that One buys a new Car to enjoy its high tech features , reliable and trouble-free service for a few years. But, instead the car becomes a liabilty eating into your time, money and above all leaves you depressed, a feeling that is very difficult to overcome no matter how much you curse your luck.

I have also heard about the rear Stepney cover falling off on the Roads. I am told that Tatas have now provided an additional strap with a buckle that holds the cover from falling. While the world is moving ahead Tatas still believes in providing the age old string to hold your Pyjamas from sliding down. Hats off to Direct Injection Common Rail.



So long....
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I have emailed Christabelle Noronha to bring this thread in her attention.
dude Max,

In your email, you have have mentioned Mr.Simone Tata. I believe its Ms.Simone Tata.

And not to bring down the value of your involvement in this effort, but dude, she makes lipsticks and nail polishes.
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And not to bring down the value of your involvement in this effort, but dude, she makes lipsticks and nail polishes.
No, she doesn't. Lakme was sold years ago to HLL. She now manages Westside and Star India Bazaar, which she started.

The Tatas are as close as can be. If you get one's attention, Ratan will hear about it sooner or later.
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The Tatas are as close as can be. If you get one's attention, Ratan will hear about it sooner or later.
Do you really feel that Mr. Ratan Tata is not aware of this issue.

I am not too sure but somehow I get the feeling that Mr. Tata is fully in the picture., but then I could be totally wrong.

Here's one SMS that I received from a well wisher :-

"Seriously i hope you are in the forefront of bringing justice to countless other gullible tata vehicle owners made a fool by the tata family. Hope god has ears."
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Sad how in just a few years, they've managed to ruin so much goodwill built up over generations. I know I will never trust Tata just for their name ever again.
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No, she doesn't. Lakme was sold years ago to HLL. She now manages Westside and Star India Bazaar, which she started.

The Tatas are as close as can be. If you get one's attention, Ratan will hear about it sooner or later.
yup. my bad.

sold off to HLL in 1996.

point i was trying to make was she was not actively involved with TATA Motors.

Or is she ??
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Sad how in just a few years, they've managed to ruin so much goodwill built up over generations. I know I will never trust Tata just for their name ever again.
if the above is true, I wonder how our politicians get elected again and again...and how some parties rule for decades in a stretch.

Frankly, not downplaying fellow member Varun Roy's agony with his TATA product, but I doubt if this one case is really going to "ruin so much goodwill built up over generations".

Reason is in the same statement...."goodwill built up over generations".

There are millions who know and swear by TATA products. A very tiny percentage of these millions know our fellow member and his problematic TATA product. And very few of these millions, even when made aware of this issue will alter their opinion on the TATAS. Like it or not, they have just too much goodwill. As mentioned earlier, the TATAS are an institution in themselves, not just your run of the mill corporate.

Of course that is not to say Varun won't win the case, because it seems pretty straighforward with all the detailed documentation preserved and presented. Am just not sure about any serious dent in goodwill for the TATAS. The dealer, probably yes.

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Thumbs down no reply from Christabelle or tata media

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Hi Max,

Any news or feedback from Christabelle Noronha ? It appears that she is also following the strong Tata Tradition of not acknowledging receipt of mails not to talk about responding, especially when someone is complaining about their product.

I was hoping that she would respond. more so when she happened to be with the media centre.

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Hi Varun,

No there is no reply or acknowledgement from Christabelle Noronha or tata media department!. Well, guys I sent email to media @ tata.com which appears to be tata group media email. How can they ignore bad publicity (tata media department !) of their child / sister company ?. Also it was said in the link that Christabelle Norohna works for TATA Media department at this link hence i sent the email to media at tata.com.


Here is the link which says Christabelle Noronha works for TATA Media department
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/tsunam...ater/india.asp

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The Tata Group's huge presence in South India has also made it a key player in relief efforts. Christabelle Noronha works in Tata's media department and can be reached via media (at) tata.com.
btw, my NHC side door was kissed by truck and it has bented and have little damage. I have TATA AIG insurance cover which should pay for this. Lets see how they handel my vehicels case (another tata company).

Well, this is my first insurance claim in life. any tips
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if the above is true, I wonder how our politicians get elected again and again...and how some parties rule for decades in a stretch.
I know that one case like mine may not make a big dent in tata sales figures but your reasoning is a little off-line.

The reason why politicians get reelected is that they take GOOD care of their constituency. Even they have to work hard and can't afford to be unreasonal and take their victory for granted. Politics is a different ball game. How else would you explain the white wash of the Chandra babu Naidu Govt, when we all know what changes he has brought to his state.

Precisely what I expect from Tata's..... Good care for its product sold to its customers. More so when their Chairman boasts that "THE CUSTOMER IS THE KING" in his interview to Ms. Christabelle Noronha. Surprisingly, the interview is off their web site. If some one can locate that interview it will be worth a read.

So long....

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I had called the Consumer Forum today to find out if the Hon'ble Judge has reported back. It appears that he taken a long Medical leave and may not be reporting this month. A special OFFICER INCHARGE has taken over till such time. I have been asked to call them again on Monday to know about the JUDGEMENT of my case. Hope there is some good news.

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I really really hope I am proved wrong but I am getting really bad vibes from all that is happening, varun.
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