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Old 9th June 2010, 01:56   #136
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None of the products Honda sells are custom made for India.
What do you mean? Other than Tata & Maruti who else sells products custom made for India?
And how is it relevant?
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What do you mean? Other than Tata & Maruti who else sells products custom made for India?
And how is it relevant?
All the products these automakers sell are global products with very less localization in india. That also affects the selling price(120% duty). Products like Figo, Beat are designed for markets like India. Only when Honda or Toyota can design hatchbacks like that can they compete in India. If I go by the news reports, they are headed in that direction. I am only talking about the hatchback segment here which is very price competitive. Entry level sedan segment will be the same in few years.

Again I not saying this to defend Honda. Just analyzing the facts.
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All the products these automakers sell are global products with very less localization in india. That also affects the selling price(120% duty). Products like Figo, Beat are designed for markets like India. Only when Honda or Toyota can design hatchbacks like that can they compete in India. If I go by the news reports, they are headed in that direction. I am only talking about the hatchback segment here which is very price competitive. Entry level sedan segment will be the same in few years.

Again I not saying this to defend Honda. Just analyzing the facts.

Mostly right, but not completely, mind you I am nitpicking. The Beat was not strictly made for "markets like" India, GM planned to launch it in Europe as well. Spot on about the Figo, although it is similar to the Fiesta sold in Europe (previous generation), they customized and localized the car for India.

A good example is the i20 and Punto. Both heavily localized, but in general made for the world (I understand that the Punto is not exported from here), hence they do not have the 120% duty (or high duty).
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All the products these automakers sell are global products with very less localization in india. That also affects the selling price(120% duty). Products like Figo, Beat are designed for markets like India. Only when Honda or Toyota can design hatchbacks like that can they compete in India. If I go by the news reports, they are headed in that direction. I am only talking about the hatchback segment here which is very price competitive. Entry level sedan segment will be the same in few years.

Again I not saying this to defend Honda. Just analyzing the facts.
Honda City isn't sold in Europe & USA, I think. It's sold only in developing countries. I thought that City was fully built in India - so why should it face any more duty than what other cars face?
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Honda City isn't sold in Europe & USA, I think. It's sold only in developing countries. I thought that City was fully built in India - so why should it face any more duty than what other cars face?
I think originally the parts were from Honda Thailand. What is the current status?
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and i tell you half the people buying it are politicos as it suits their image of arriving big time in a huge mass of metal .
that was a few years back..
now everyone wants to drive an SUV in the crowded Indian roads..
they think that will help them send out the message "don't mess with me, and give me my way"

off late there has been a considerable increase in the number of SUVs on city roads. Even women drivers are taking to SUVs in a bigway.
with SUVs becoming cheaper and cheaper(eg:Rio, Rhino) wonder what will happen after 5 years.
Guess City administrators will be pressed to issue a ban on SUVs measuring more than 4300mm to ply on city roads..afterall SUVs were meant to be offroaders right?
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What do you mean? Other than Tata & Maruti who else sells products custom made for India?
And how is it relevant?

Er...when has Maruti ever made a custom product for India? They sell the same old cramped hand-me-down products from east asian markets.

And by custom I dont mean stripping down a product for India, or adding stickering.
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At least Honda's engines are de-tuned for India !
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Er...when has Maruti ever made a custom product for India? They sell the same old cramped hand-me-down products from east asian markets.

And by custom I dont mean stripping down a product for India, or adding stickering.
very right ! whatever suzuki may say , its a far different story alltogather that we indians are made to belive !
i wont talk much over this subject as i already recived an infraction over this matter some time ago at some other thread !
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Hey Kaspurv, I did not see the figures for last month, or did you post them last month.

Can you please post the sales figures for last month along with this month.
The last month figures were posted by PCS as I was not in town.
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Am not sure who, but someone did ask for this somewhere in this thread.

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Also Hyundai seems to be moving to be moving an awesome amount of i20s. Its surprising that the Diesel version sells more than the P version. Quite an achievement considering no discounts and the exorbitant pricing.
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You've mixed up i20 & ritz
I dunno where the problem is.
It appears alright on my system offline.

Anyway
I'll type it the good old fashioned way

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Total
swift P 5200 5550 5483 5630 5740 27603
D 6361 6791 6705 6883 7020 33760
Tot 11561 12341 12188 12513 12760 61363

i20 P 3560 4225 3835 4565 4820 21005
D 486 685 675 740 790 3376
Tot 4046 4910 4510 5305 5610 24381

ritz P 2775 2476 2661 2263 2440 12615
D 3400 3030 3255 2772 2985 15442
Tot 6175 5506 5916 5035 5425 28057

figo P 0 50 3245 2710 2845 8850
D 0 56 3965 3320 3482 10823
Tot 0 106 7210 6030 6327 19673

polo P 0 0 698 901 1314 2913
D 0 0 0 0 0 0
Tot 0 0 698 901 1314 2913


Phew!

Mods: PLease delete my previous 2 posts as they can be misleading
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Thanks for the information Karp, for some reason I am seeing the ratio of the Petrol to diesel for all Swift, Ritz and Figo as 45:55.

Looks like there is some kind of trend in here. But still not sure how come all are accuratly the same ratio for all the month.

On revelation I have got is abt the i20, I was thinking all this while the Diesel i20 sold more than Petrol. But the ratio between petrol : Diesel is around 86 : 14
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Thanks, karpusv. Do you have similar P/D splits for Linea and Punto?
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