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Old 15th November 2005, 18:47   #181
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Check this link for Price and for Fiesta
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/nov/15ford.htm
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Old 15th November 2005, 18:54   #182
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Infact they did enter the hatch segment; Fusion

On a more serious note, Ford's pricing, though not very competitive for the reasons suggested by solly, is much better as compared to what they did to fusion.

Now they should plonk fiesta's dsl engine into the fusion and start selling it at a more competitive price. i am sure there will be takers for fusion then.
the fusion has not been perceived as a hatchback in the indian context by consumers. it certainly does not satisfy the criteria )which i mentioned in the previous post) indian buyers look for in a hatchback.

i was talking about a hatchback from ford along those lines, which i felt was improbable.
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I dont know abt blore but here in Hyd it was possible to get the Baleno Lxi OTR for around Rs 5.75 lakhs....(not ex showroom...but OTR)...till July...lost track of prices after that..
do we believe that a 1100 kg + fiesta with 82bhp will be competition for 94 bhp 975 kg Baleno...specially for those who like power?
Also, would the FE match Baleno's? And will Ford improve their after sales?
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Old 15th November 2005, 19:38   #184
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Infact they did enter the hatch segment; Fusion
I used to think so about this car.... only until I had a close look and test drive...
now I realize that it outperforms even sedans (entry level) in all respects including space/size ! ... far ahead of small cars
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the fusion IS a fantastic vehicle. even the base model has most of the essential goodies. its spacious, excellent engine, exciting to drive.

its the entry price and the FE that does not make it a typical hatchback per typical indian mindset.
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Old 15th November 2005, 19:49   #186
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I think you mixed up the prices of sxi and zxi.


Variants Ajay Vivek
1.4 Petrol EXI- 6,29,000/- 645000 (thats a huge difference)
1.4 Diesel- 8,05,000/- 806000
1.6 PetrolZXI- 7,20,756/- 724000
1.6 PetrolSxi- 7,60,854/- 794000 ( thats a huge difference)

Lets both Double check
Got the metro list with me - Vivek is correct

Looked at the car - does not do much for me - rather a bit of OHC+ mondeo + a pinch of Skoda + two spoonfuls of old Esteem - tries to be everything but looks bland. Driving it might be different matter. Enquired about the Fusion and suddenly th price of the top model melted by Rs 1.1L !!!
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Got the metro list with me - Vivek is correct

Looked at the car - does not do much for me - rather a bit of OHC+ mondeo + a pinch of Skoda + two spoonfuls of old Esteem - tries to be everything but looks bland. Driving it might be different matter. Enquired about the Fusion and suddenly th price of the top model melted by Rs 1.1L !!!
My first mistake as a mod - I meant to qoute your thread and screwed up your message - apologies - ajmat

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I used to think so about this car.... only until I had a close look and test drive...
now I realize that it outperforms even sedans (entry level) in all respects including space/size ! ... far ahead of small cars
As far as I understand, a hatchback does not mean that it is a small car. I view it as a car which does not have a boot, like a sedan or like a notchback. Yes, Fusion definitely scores in the space department. Even the trunk space is pretty good I guess. I am of the opinion that Fusion is one of the most practical cars available now, albeit overpriced. Now there is a correction, I guess there will be more takers. Also with the dsl option, it will be even better. If given a choice b'ween Fiesta and Fusion, I will pick up a Fusion anyday for its sheer practicality.

Anyway, the best part is that Ford has now started talking sense when it comes to the money they are asking for their products. Overpricing and then correcting has been Ford's way of life in India so far. Examples can be pretty much every product of theirs starting with Escort (they should have named it Ford Excuse instead of Ford Escort ).

Fiesta is all set to add a new dimension to the existing C segment options. Its pricing is more or less spot on and the product looks good according to initial drive reports. Hope Ford does well now.
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Prices are OTR Bangalore

"Enquired about the Fusion and suddenly th price of the top model melted by Rs 1.1L !!!" Very well put - Ajmat
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Are those prices ex-showroom or on-the-road? If they are ex-showroom, those prices are suddenly not looking all that great...it would mean an OTR price of nearly 7 lakhs for the base model. After all that talk about 5.48, this is pretty much KLPD.
They are OTR price including the stinking lifetime tax of Karnataka.
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Hmmmm...I really wonder how much the lesser priced variant is going to sell at. Or it might just end up as a bestseller, with the higher end variants creating the image of a very expensive car while the exi does all the volumes.......

Seems like a nice strategy, and the car being NEW a lot of people considering other models will be tempted to go in for this one. They will do VERY well initially - regardless of whether the car is good or not. After that it depends entirely on how good the vehicle is.

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As far as I understand, a hatchback does not mean that it is a small car. I view it as a car which does not have a boot, like a sedan or like a notchback.
Thats right.... but the original reference to hatchback was inclined towards small car, I suppose
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Ajmat

Are those prices ex-showroom or on-the-road? If they are ex-showroom, those prices are suddenly not looking all that great...it would mean an OTR price of nearly 7 lakhs for the base model. After all that talk about 5.48, this is pretty much KLPD.
I believe Ajmat is talking about OTR Bangalore price. In Karnataka, we pay life time road tax (it should be offroad tax if you consider the road situation in Bangalore) and it is very high. That will just bloat the onroad prices here. For my Palio 1.2 NV ELX itself, I had to pay around 40k as road tax if I remember it correctly (I can cross-check this and let you know the exact figure).
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I believe Ajmat is talking about OTR Bangalore price. In Karnataka, we pay life time road tax (it should be offroad tax if you consider the road situation in Bangalore) and it is very high. That will just bloat the onroad prices here. For my Palio 1.2 NV ELX itself, I had to pay around 40k as road tax if I remember it correctly (I can cross-check this and let you know the exact figure).

Thanks Deepak - that would translate to about Rs.6.2 lakhs or less OTR in Cochin. Pretty good, and since all the advertising will concentrate on the 'josh' of the 1.6 nobody would notice that I only have the 1.4 variant. Its still a Fiesta, a 7 lakh+ car! Spend almost 2 lakhs less than the NHC and YET get the same peer value - great proposition!
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since all the advertising will concentrate on the 'josh' of the 1.6 nobody would notice that I only have the 1.4 variant.
Wasn't this how they were selling the 1.3 pushrod ikon some years ago? Looks like they are trying the same strategy now.
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