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View Poll Results: Best driver's car below 5Lakhs (ex-showroom)
Figo - TDCi 58 17.68%
Swift - 1.2K series 111 33.84%
Figo - 1.2 petrol 12 3.66%
Swift - DDiS 120 36.59%
A-star 8 2.44%
Chevy Beat (Petrol) 19 5.79%
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Old 18th June 2010, 23:35   #31
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@Clevermax: Figo has good dynamics but the performance offered does not make it as exciting to drive as the Swift, especially the Petrol version. The Swift has both entertaining agile handling and a peppy engine.
Agreed and it's funny how in my opinion Maruti have the two most fun to drive cars in this range:

a. Swift
b. A-star - Just a change of tires is recommended.
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What's so funny about that ? You sound like these were the first cars from Suzuki to be FTD.
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Below 5 Lakhs!? The Figo should be the winner, the feedback & the handling powers of the wonderful Fiesta chassis mated to the TDCi makes it absolutely FTD car at that price!

I have mixed feelings about the Swift. Its got the most peppy petrol/diesel(?) engine, the handling/feedback for the FTD factor has never been consistent! What are the Swift options for a below 5 Lakh car?

@ Amartya! are you serious about the A-Star? I haven't driven one, but I would like to know if its so good to be called one of the best in the sub 5 Lakh segment!

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What's so funny about that ? You sound like these were the first cars from Suzuki to be FTD.
I think Swift was the first from Maruti to have ever come close to something called FTD!

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Old 18th June 2010, 23:50   #34
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Swift's petrol engine gives it the edge over the Figo.
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@Nitrous! ^^ How would you compare a SwiftD against the FigoD?
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Agreed and it's funny how in my opinion Maruti have the two most fun to drive cars in this range:

a. Swift
b. A-star - Just a change of tires is recommended.
Well not just that, adding to the fun, among the by-gone ones suzuki has two of the best I would feel as a drivers car.
1. Suzuki Zen
2. Alto Vxi 1.1L
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I think Swift was the first from Maruti to have ever come close to something called FTD!
I think, therefore I am. Hmm. Thinking is free - go ahead & indulge. Looks like you missed the fact that this thread starts with the Zen as the FTD car & to the best of my knowledge the Zen was a Maruti. The Alto1.1 was another and so was the M800-5speed, whose performance I have seen on track and on city roads. There are other cars, but since they dont meet the 5-lakh criteria, no use bringing them here.

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Old 19th June 2010, 00:05   #38
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Since the Palio 1.6 is no longer in contention, my vote goes to the Swift K-series.

It appeals in equal proportions to the following sets of buyers within the 4-6L range :

- Enthusiast
- Commuter
- Enthusiastic Commuter

Take a long TD and decide for yourself guys..

PS : I have put my money where my mouth is !
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Well not just that, adding to the fun, among the by-gone ones suzuki has two of the best I would feel as a drivers car.
1. Suzuki Zen
2. Alto Vxi 1.1L
Xingamazon, The Swift is much more fun to drive than the cars you have listed here. The Alto1.1 surely did have very good performance but the EPS and handling were not worthy of the FTD title.

The Zen was a great handler but the performance was not in the league of the Swift and it could not carry as much speed as a Swift in a corner. The later version with EPS and 12"rims lost the FTD factor.


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Among diesels it surely is the Figo TDCi. (with a atleast 5k run engine and after the engine has attained optimum operating temperature ). I think the base model comes under 5L.
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I think we may have different definitions of drivers car, so may help to mention that as well.

To me, the only two contenders are:
1. Figo diesel
2. Swift petrol
(I think base model of both these cars comes <= 5lakhs).
I disagree with you guys here, the Diesel engine in the Figo feels best at low revs, the engine feels unenthusiastic at high revs and lacks top end power. Overall the acceleration is in the league of Punto and Polo.

The DDiS/MJD engine in the Swift is much more sporty and enthusiastic than the TDCi unit in the Figo. The power in DDiS tapers after 3000rpm but still it manages to be much more FTD compared to the Figo.

Only if Ford decides to plonk the 1.6 Engine in Figo from the Fiesta it will be able to match/outperform the Swift.

Both the engines in Swift are peppy and have adequate performance to please an enthusiast but when it comes to ultimate FTD factor, the high revving Petrol is the winner.

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Assuming it below 5 lakhs ex-showroom, just 1 car comes to mind > Maruti Swift LXi. You are the fuel!
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Old 19th June 2010, 01:35   #41
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The Fabia and Polo entry level variants are priced < 5L.

Yes they too have underpowered engines, but aren't they good to drive overall?

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There are other cars, but since they dont meet the 5-lakh criteria, no use bringing them here.
IIRC, the Esteem LX/LXi used to have a tag < 5L
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How you define a drivers car?

Why not a Santro or i10 not in the list?
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What's so funny about that ? You sound like these were the first cars from Suzuki to be FTD.
It's funny to "me", because the A-star hardly ever gets mentioned and is not very popular (of course due to it's other flaws like lack of space) while the Swift has always been acknowledged. If you read my post again, you'll see I quoted .Anshuman's post.

OT: If I might say so, it helps to sometimes to not be cynical about every bhpian you doesn't agree with you on all issues (read, the Nano thread), and just for your information, here's my list of cars till date( a 1985 Suzuki SS80 DX Red, 2003 Baleno Vxi, Ford Fusion+ 2006 (1.6)). As you can see, there are a couple of Maruti's in there and I consider both of them (specially the Baleno) to be great to drive.

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What I mean by drivers car:
1. Handles well: It is designed with more importance for handling than ride
2. Steering feels direct, sharp, responsive and offers good feel as well
3. Accelerates well
4. Body/chassis design and dynamics enable it to take high speed curves, lane changes, twisties, hairpin bends etc at a reasonable speed and feel fun when doing it.
5. Everything feels "fun" to do: changing direction, changing gears, accelerating.
6. Decent tyres
7. Smooth and precise gearshift
8. Just the right amount of clutch play - not too much, not too little

What are NOT must-haves in a drivers car:
1. Plush ride
2. Space (interior, knee room, boot, whatever)
3. Rear seat comfort
4. Fuel efficiency
5. Gadgets like power windows, music, central lock etc etc
6. Good looks
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How you define a drivers car?

Why not a Santro or i10 not in the list?
A Santro or an i10 doesn't fare here because the engine is as such not a free revving one, The handling usually is pathetic with tons of body roll, and finally the steering feedback (Esp in i10) at higher speeds is equal to driving on water!!

Ya all the above IMHO
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Maruti, Honda (and I guess also toyota) cars come with EPS, how can a car without feedback be a drivers car??
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