Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 21st July 2010, 16:26   #1
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,891
Thanked: 19 Times
Default Sleek Tata Nanos to Replace Rasping Autos

What do yo think about this story ?

Name:  nano_auto.jpg
Views: 17948
Size:  30.5 KB

Gentlemanly behavior by auto drivers in India is something you can only dream about. I bet there’s hardly anyone who’s not had a heated argument with them. It’s heartening that authorities are not turning a deaf ear to continuous outcry from the public in this regard. The government of Maharashtra has decided to give auto drivers lessons in etiquette. And guess what’s going to happen in Bangalore? Tata Nanos may soon replace abrasive autorickshaws, if the BMTC has its way.

In an attempt to phase out autorickshaws gradually and provide Bangaloreans with a cheap but comfortable local transport mechanism, the transport department is planning to buy10,000 Tata Nanos as city taxies.

Karnataka transport minister R Ashoka said the government is thinking of purchasing 10,000 Nano cars and renting them out in Bangalore. The profit will be shared between the government and the driver, at 40:60 ratio respectively. The government may invest for the cars from its own resources or take loans.”

Tata Nano vs Bajaj Autorickshaws

* Both Nano and autorickshaw cost Rs 1.3 lakh on the road.
* While the Nano offers a mileage of 20 kmpl, an autorickshaw returns 25 kmpl.
* Tata Nano emits 101 grams of CO2 per kilometer while 2-stroke and 4-stroke auto-rickshaws emit 87.2 and 85.6 CO2/km respectively. LPG autos’ figures are even less. So autorickshaws are evidently more eco-friendly.

Do you think the move by BMTC is constructive? Or will it blemish the identity of the people’s car?

for detailed story

Fit to Post: Yahoo! India News Blog Archive Sleek Tata Nanos to Replace Rasping Autos
StarVegabond is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 16:41   #2
NIP
Senior - BHPian
 
NIP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,151
Thanked: 81 Times
Default

This is music to my ears !! Doesn't matter what cars what is blemished, as long as Autos are on the way out !!! Good show BMTC....hope this happens fast.
NIP is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 16:41   #3
BHPian
 
binoyb22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: cochin
Posts: 168
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Great step taken by Karnataka govt.It remains to be seen if it just stands on paper or it really happens!!

Some of good things would be
1)four passengers can travel.
2)Rainy days you wont get wet,which happens if you travel in auto
3)Hopefully need not fight with drivers anymore.
binoyb22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 16:44   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
McLaren Rulez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mysore
Posts: 2,375
Thanked: 474 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by binoyb22 View Post
Great step taken by Karnataka govt.It remains to be seen if it just stands on paper or it really happens!!

Some of good things would be
1)four passengers can travel.
2)Rainy days you wont get wet,which happens if you travel in auto
3)Hopefully need not fight with drivers anymore.
Dunno about number three. But the two biggest benefits I can see are

1) Safety: No contest here.

2) Image: Switching to a car from an auto is definitely going to give Bangalore a better image

That said, I doubt if it'll happen anytime soon because the costs involved are quite huge
McLaren Rulez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 16:51   #5
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NH209
Posts: 1,607
Thanked: 700 Times
Default

Tata better give these taxis a new name, with mild cosmetic changes like bumper, lights etc. But i still vouch for the 'drivability' factor of a 3 wheeler over the Nano taxi.
ramzsys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 16:52   #6
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2,035
Thanked: 384 Times
Default

Atrocious plan of minister R Ashok for the following reason

1. BMTC is supposed to provide bus services to public , they are better off investing money in buying more Volvo / Marcopolo and oridnary buses that can reduce congestion and vehicular traffic.

2. If nano is better then an Auto , Auto drivers will buy it automatically in replacement cycle . Government just need to make sure that polluting auto's which are beyond shelf life are scrapped. Let free-market decide if a 3 wheeler or a 4 wheeler is best for cheap urban transport.

3. There are actually too many autos on roads of Bangalore , The point is the work culture is not as efficient as say Mumbai and Auto drivers take public to ransom by refusing to go or asking double fare.
Just change of vehicle can not change mentality .

I think only beneficiary will be some dealer who will supply 10,000 Nanos.
amitk26 is online now   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 16:58   #7
aby
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 97
Thanked: 6 Times
Default

I think if Tata come out with an LPG version of Nano, we have a win-win situation from all angles over the nasty Autos as it will match or even be lower than Auto CO2 emissions.

The reasons I want the damned Autorickshaws out are

1) The Highly unsafe
2) Front handles which make those Satan on wheels drive like maniacs.
3) Better passenger load (4 can travel, compared to 3 in Auto)
4) Silencer tampering, which increase the noise pollution

Easier solution would be to simply ban registration of new autos in Bangalore city and letting Nanos take over a period of time. This will take care of the cost aspect as well.

Last edited by aby : 21st July 2010 at 17:05.
aby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:06   #8
Senior - BHPian
 
prince_pervez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Redwood shores, CA, USA
Posts: 4,205
Thanked: 30 Times
Default

I cannot see how this going to help. More commotion on the roads is what I see.
prince_pervez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:12   #9
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pune
Posts: 553
Thanked: 214 Times
Default

I think Tata will not allow nano to become taxi. Tata has Magic Iris for this purpose.
sushantr5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:25   #10
aby
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 97
Thanked: 6 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sushantr5 View Post
I think Tata will not allow nano to become taxi. Tata has Magic Iris for this purpose.
beg to differ, but isn't it apples to orange comparison. Magic is 8-10 seater which isn't even sold in urban areas.

Autos can easily be replaced by Nanos. The big question is will Tata agree to that. My feeling is that once they clear the existing booking backlog, it would be a great way to increase the market size. Being the lowest priced car, there is no image "burden" to carry, which a manufacturer of sedan would possibly be thinking.

Replicate it all over the market and suddenly you have over 10million autorickshaws all over the country which start looking obsolete. A huge market by any means.

In the long run, I think Nano might do to Autorickshaw industry what Indica did to taxis. Basically become the de-facto standard. So maybe that can explain the desperation of Bajaj to get into this business.
aby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:26   #11
Senior - BHPian
 
speedmiester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: bangalore
Posts: 1,316
Thanked: 824 Times
Default

It is a commendable move by the BMTC (if it is implemented).
The autos are a huge menace to traffic as they can be turned around with their handle bars, bet it would be different with a steering wheel.
Another important factor is the safety, nanos are definitely safer compared to autos.

The emission figure is not a concern, as most of the auto drivers run on kerosene instead of petrol.
speedmiester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:30   #12
Senior - BHPian
 
amitoj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,954
Thanked: 1,591 Times
Default

Will appreciate this move only if they install speed limiters on these, which wont allow them to cross 40 kmph. Imagine the chaos these auto drivers will cause when they have a more powerful vehicle at their disposal!!
amitoj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:31   #13
ACM
Distinguished - BHPian
 
ACM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 4,152
Thanked: 2,457 Times
Default

This would be a delight.

We can then plan on Auto Rides as something from the past that our kids would relish just as they relish rides in bombays double deckers.

So much safer.
So much more space.
So much more convenient
So much lesser rains to endure. We can forget about the cloth flapps that the ricks have for protection.
So what will Bajaj do.

Do give me a tip just before this confirmed. Buy TATA Stocks, Sell Bajaj Stocks.

A new kind of mouse to bully for my Safari.
ACM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:43   #14
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2,035
Thanked: 384 Times
Default

I can not even think how people can like this move specially when BMTC is the agency and money is from tax payers. Instead of my tax money going to make replace purchase I would like Auto owners / drivers to get bank loans and finance a replacement nano for themselves.

BMTC should focus on improving bus service which is pathetic as of today. If you see there is another government agency KSRTC who already entered radio taxi business citing some pretext of public service but I don't see how they are of any help to public.
During the HAL airport days they had a monopoly of parking space on the exit road from old airport where as others had to pay 60-100Rs for parking once Airport moved to Devanhalli it was level playing field and now meru and easycab provide better services.

If BMTC enters this it will be repeat of KSRTC story.

OT but interesting story :

We generally assume that Auto wala is a poor guy but once my BIL who was a fresh engineering graduate in year 2004 was going for an interview and caught an auto to the venue in Bangalore , Auto driver after seeing him well dressed with a folder in his hand asked him if he is going for an interview and started giving him some tips. BIL was surprised and asked "Bhaiyya aap ko yeh sab kaise pata hai "

Auto guy told he is a BBA earlier he was doing some 20K job in BPO then chucked it and purchased an auto , with in 2 years he has 5 autos 1 he drives himself and rent out 4 others he even advised if BIL wants to enter business he can help

Last edited by amitk26 : 21st July 2010 at 17:50.
amitk26 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 17:49   #15
Senior - BHPian
 
blackasta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Kolkata, WB
Posts: 2,776
Thanked: 955 Times
Default

Has anyone thought about the re training costs involved?
Auto drivers require a 3 wheeler license which is more akin to a scooter. I do not think maximum of them even know how to drive a car! They have to be hurriedly taught driving - and suddenly we are going to have 10000 newbies on road - all at once!
If the auo->nano transition does happen, it should be in a phased manner. Do a small feasibility study in a small tier II-III city, and if successful - replicate it on a large, but phased scale in metros.
We would also require nanocab variants.
Give that a thought.
PS: One thing is common - both auto and nano have their engines located at the rear!

Last edited by blackasta : 21st July 2010 at 17:50.
blackasta is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tata Motors Recalls 1.45 Lakh Nanos Irish The Indian Car Scene 33 12th March 2013 15:08
Quick Photologue: Tata Nanos sidindica Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 24 27th May 2010 16:03
Dealership Experience while buying Tata Manza from Techno Autos amitw79 Indian Car Dealerships 2 24th March 2010 23:48
My Hyundai i10, sleek silver Rjeevan Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 11 26th November 2009 13:26


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 14:50.

Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks