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Old 7th August 2010, 02:36   #31
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If we were to take into account the ex-showroom price +- Rs. 50K, I believe the base Audi A4 should fall in that range. A person spending 30L on a car should afford to pay an EMI of Rs 2100 extra/month for 5 years to get the Audi.
If we were to speak realistically, with OTR prices which we would pay, our answers would look a lot different.
For example, we have Mumbai company registered cars, so my list would then look like this:

4-6: Ford Figo 1.4 TDCi Zxi (Titanium would be out of budget)
6-8: Hyundai i20 CRDi Sportz (Asta would be out of budget)
8-10: Ford Fiesta 1.6 S (Which is around 9.xx OTR, Company Registered, Mumbai)
10-14: All New Honda City (The version we would most likely get would be the V A/T, which comes to 12L+)
14-20: Honda Civic (Again, the V A/T is almost/over 17L IIRC)
20-25: Mitsubishi Outlander
25-30: Probably have to add in a bit and get a BMW 320d CE

So, keeping this objective, it is best to base it on the ex-showroom prices.
For those in the southern cities like Banagalore, where taxes are higher, their options would also be different. Given that this thread is for all over India, it is best to take into consideration ex-showroom prices, without discounts.

P.S: Very surprised to see that the corolla is popular in the 10-14L category, with the Civic coming in the 14-20L category. Don't both these cars have similar prices?
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Old 7th August 2010, 03:29   #32
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4-6: Maruti Swift Diesel
6-8: Hyundai i20 CRDi or Polo 1.6
8-10: Ford Fiesta 1.6, Verna CRDi or Innova D-4D
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Dr A.D.

So, keeping this objective, it is best to base it on the ex-showroom prices.
For those in the southern cities like Banagalore, where taxes are higher, their options would also be different. Given that this thread is for all over India, it is best to take into consideration ex-showroom prices, without discounts.
Actually for higher end cars, the difference between ex-showroom price and OTR price can be as high as 4-5L, and hence it is not negligible. Anyway, I agree with the general point that the prices should be only indicative and I am no more pushing to stick to the price bands exactly. As someone said, there are also heavy discounts on these cars from time to time and special deals can be negotiated, so the exact price will vary quite a lot.

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P.S: Very surprised to see that the corolla is popular in the 10-14L category, with the Civic coming in the 14-20L category. Don't both these cars have similar prices?
No, these cars do not have similar prices. While Corolla 1.8G can be purchased for under 14L, the equivalently spec'ed Civic goes above 15. This is the reason Corolla seems to be popular in 10-14 band, while Civic is pushed up to 14-20 band.

I was thinking (and already told my friend) that a better price band to consider is 13-18L range, because than a lot of similar cars will get clubbed together and that will be a fair comparison.

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Old 7th August 2010, 12:22   #34
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1-4: Maruti WagonR, Alto k10
4-6: Ford Figo Titanium TCDi
6-8: Hyundai i20 CRDi
8-10: ANHC AT
10-12: Corolla Altis D4D

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Actually for higher end cars, the difference between ex-showroom price and OTR price can be as high as 4-5L, and hence it is not negligible. Anyway, I agree with the general point that the prices should be only indicative and I am no more pushing to stick to the price bands exactly. As someone said, there are also heavy discounts on these cars from time to time and special deals can be negotiated, so the exact price will vary quite a lot.

Exactly why I said that in order to have an even view point, it is best to take into consideration ex-showroom prices and not OTR prices. My friend might be able to buy a car for 65L in Delhi, but due to higher taxes, I might have to pay 70L, even though there is probably a negligible difference in the ex-showroom prices.

No, these cars do not have similar prices. While Corolla 1.8G can be purchased for under 14L, the equivalently spec'ed Civic goes above 15. This is the reason Corolla seems to be popular in 10-14 band, while Civic is pushed up to 14-20 band.

I was thinking (and already told my friend) that a better price band to consider is 13-18L range, because than a lot of similar cars will get clubbed together and that will be a fair comparison.

True. Generally speaking, the Corolla and Civic are competitors to be very honest, and to get the best view point, the brackets should be based by segments and not price. Like the >4L, 4L - 6L, 6L - 8L, 8L - 12L, 12L-17L, 18L-25L, 25L - 30L, 30L - 40L, etc.

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I would go with:

My choices
4-6 : Hyundai i10 AT
6-8 : Hyundai i20 AT
8-10 : Honda Jazz
10-14 : VW Vento AT
14-20 : Skoda Laura 2.0 TDi DSG Elegance
20-25 : Toyota Fortuner
25-30 : Skoda Superb DSG
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Old 25th October 2010, 20:33   #37
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My choices will be:
1-3L - Tata Nano LX
4-6L - Maruti Suzuki Ritz DDiS
6-8L - Fiat Punto MJD 90HP
8-10L - Fiat Linea T-Jet
10-14 - Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi
14-20L - Honda Accord 2.4 i-VTEC
20-25L - Mitsubishi Outlander
25-30L - BMW 320d
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Old 25th October 2010, 20:43   #38
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4-6: Ford Figo 1.4 TDCi Zxi
6-8: Honda Jazz Select (+amenities)
8-10: VW Vento
10-14: Chevy Cruze LT
14-20: Toyota Fortuner
20-25: Honda Accord
25-30: Nissan Teana/ Honda CR-V


I don't know if the above are the 'best' (the adjective being very, very subjective); but going by your description of your friend, he would like to be in a roomy car with easy egress-ingress!!! Since he doesn't care too much about FE, am sure he'll love to drive around in a Cruze/ CR-V. Fortuner currently is the blue-eyed boy (or man!) in the Indian market, the rest of them just choose themselves. Teana would be an awry choice, but frankly, having driven a Nissan earlier, i can vouch for its comfort level and simplicity, though it takes a hit in 'reliability' when compared to its Japanese counter parts viz. Honda, Toyota.

There you go, my biased suggestions
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Old 25th October 2010, 20:47   #39
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3-4.5 lakhs- Ritz Petrol
4.5-6 lakhs- Figo Titanium tdci
6-8 lakhs- Fiesta 1.6/Fiesta TDCI(Both For self driving)/ Manza for chaffeur.
8-10-Vento Diesel
10-15- Cruze/Civic
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It should be ex-showroom price. In Bangalore a top end Civic costs 17 lacs and it will not be the case in Delhi. Will be 1.5 lacs cheaper I guess. Also how about overlapping bands ? It's hard with a hard cut-off like 4-6 and 6-8, what if there is a good car that costs 6.1 lacs topping the 4-6.2 lacs segment but stands no chance in the 6-8 bracket ? To make it easier for others, group the cars into various bands (say a 30% overlapping price band) and post the groups of cars. Cheers!

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Petrol
2.5 to 3.5 Lacs
Maruti Alto K10
3.5 to 5.5 Lacs
Chevy Beat
4.5 to 6.5 Lacs
Hyundai I10 for first car buyers
Ford FIGO 1.2
6.5 to 8.5 Lacs
Honda Jazz
8.5 to 10.5 Lacs
Honda City
10.5 Lacs to 15 Lacs
Skoda Superb TSI
15 Lacs to 25 Lacs
Honda Accord
Diesels
5.5 to 6.5 Lacs
Ford Figo 1.4
6.5 to 7.5 Lacs
POLO 1.2 TDI
7.5 to 9.5 Lacs
FORD Fiesta DURATORQ
9.5 to 10.5 Lacs
VW Vento 1.6 TDI
10.5 to 14.5 Lacs
Chevy Cruze
14.5 to 18.5 Lacs
Skoda Yeti TDI

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My list - mostly petrol with some notable exceptions

2-4L: i10 1.1
4-6L: Figo 1.2
6-8L: Jazz 1.2 or Vento TL 1.6
8-10L: ANHC
10-12L: Civic M/T
12-16L: Cruze or Laura petrol
16-20L: Accord 2.4
20L+ : Only a BMW 330i would do.
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@ashok_lat: skoda superb TSI does not fall in the 10.5 to 15 lac category unless you are looking at a pre-owned one. I believe you meant Skoda Laura TSI.
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@ashok_lat: skoda superb TSI does not fall in the 10.5 to 15 lac category unless you are looking at a pre-owned one. I believe you meant Skoda Laura TSI.
Ya you are correct i am sorry.. i meant to say Laura TSI.
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My list all prices ex-showroom
4-6: Ford Figo 1.2Titanium
6-8: Fiat Grande Punto 1.3 MJD VGT
8-10: Fiat Linea 1.4 TJet
10-14: Skoda Laura TSI
14-20: Toyota Fortuner
20-25: Skoda Superb TDI
25-30: BMW 320d
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