Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 2nd August 2012, 17:16   #271
Senior - BHPian
 
srishiva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 3,443
Thanked: 676 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

For the first VW Vento that caught fire, we had a TBHPian claiming they will go to the root of the problem. We haven't heard anything from him or anyone.

For most cars that caught fire abroad, there was no external accessory that was held responsible.

Also, most modifications do not involve drawing high current for it to cause fire in the engine compartment. Most people add a HU and speakers which are within the required specs. I think we are just speculating without much information.
srishiva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2012, 20:30   #272
Senior - BHPian
 
carwatcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bardez, Goa
Posts: 1,185
Thanked: 994 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

I have one assumption to make. See when Nano caught fire Tata did investigation and came up with proper reply.

So, till VW comes with reply I am assuming that the cause of fire is NOT aftermarket fittings.

The reason for such assumption is that if aftermarket installation is the reason, didn't VW (or any manufacturer) would have come out quickly and mentioned it by way of some press release after they established the same.
carwatcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2012, 21:27   #273
SDP
Team-BHP Support
 
SDP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,660
Thanked: 7,493 Times
Default Re: Polo Catches fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by amtak View Post
Hi Ghodlur,

Although the pictures are not very clear, I shall post the pictures by EOD once I blur out the number of the cars in question.
amtak, any luck with the pictures?
Did any newspaper picked up the story?
SDP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2012, 22:56   #274
Senior - BHPian
 
amtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!!
Posts: 2,772
Thanked: 331 Times
Default Re: Polo Catches fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDP View Post
amtak, any luck with the pictures?
Did any newspaper picked up the story?
I shall upload the pictures in the next hour or so. I don't think any news paper will pick up this story as it happened inside a complex.
amtak is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 13:27   #275
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 46,261
Thanked: 78,619 Times
Default Re: Polo Catches fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by amtak View Post
people are saying that an esteem parked next to the Polo caught fire first
That appears to be correct. This is what VW India has to state:

Quote:
The incident happened because of CNG fitted in a Maruti Esteem which exploded and a Volkswagen Polo was parked adjacent to the Esteem.
GTO is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 14:36   #276
BHPian
 
mempheS.D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 536
Thanked: 209 Times
Default Re: Polo Catches fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTO View Post
That appears to be correct. This is what VW India has to state:
Thanks GTO. May we know where this statement was published? I couldn't find anything on google India. And neither has <amtak> uploaded the photos yet. Please do so.

In response to some earlier bashing comments, and especially one stating that a car should be sturdy enough to accept any sort of after-market fitment to win the trust of the customer: Does this incident mean that we now throw a brand - Maruti, that has given sleepless nights to many a manufacturer in this country - off the window too for poor quality that could not withstand an after-market fitment? NO. IMHO. **It happens. **It just happens.
mempheS.D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 15:41   #277
Senior - BHPian
 
amtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!!
Posts: 2,772
Thanked: 331 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Hi Team,

sorry for my inability to post the pictures yesterday night (Dozed off on the bed!). I shall upload the pictures tonight. Going by what VW has stated; I am begining to wonder what paint do they use? Esteem has less visible damage than the POLO.
Attached Images
   

Last edited by amtak : 3rd August 2012 at 15:51.
amtak is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 15:54   #278
BHPian
 
samarjitdhar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney/Kolkata
Posts: 964
Thanked: 476 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Quote:
Originally Posted by amtak View Post
Hi Team,

sorry for my inability to post the pictures yesterday night (Dozed off on the bed!). I shall upload the pictures tonight. Going by what VW has stated; I am begining to wonder what paint do they use? Esteem has less visible damage than the POLO.
Take it easy friend . There could be various reasons which one can think of as to why the Polo took the maximum damage. Maybe the explosion sent debris at high speed right on the Polo body which caused more damage to it than the Esteem. Doesn't make the paint quality automatically the culprit here. Unless one had witnessed everything at close quarters its not advisable to sit on judgement and use the "jump to conclusions" mat pronto. Sure VW should have publicly released more information about the previous fire incidents but for now lets stop dumping on VW as it is proven that the Esteem was the culprit.

EDIT: Now I am adding all CNG kitted Esteems to the list of cars next to which my Vento will never ever be parked

Last edited by samarjitdhar : 3rd August 2012 at 15:58.
samarjitdhar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:15   #279
Senior - BHPian
 
CARDEEP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NCR
Posts: 2,694
Thanked: 1,473 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Quote:
Originally Posted by amtak View Post
Hi Team,
sorry for my inability to post the pictures yesterday night (Dozed off on the bed!). I shall upload the pictures tonight. Going by what VW has stated; I am begining to wonder what paint do they use? Esteem has less visible damage than the POLO.
From the pictures that you have uploaded it is not clear whether the CNG fitted esteem was the cause. Probably VW India are looking for excuses rather than dwelling to the root of the problem. IMO the fire seems to have erupted from Polo's battery as the left side seems to be on fire in the first image.
CARDEEP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:25   #280
Senior - BHPian
 
amtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!!
Posts: 2,772
Thanked: 331 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Quote:
Originally Posted by CARDEEP View Post
From the pictures that you have uploaded it is not clear whether the CNG fitted esteem was the cause. Probably VW India are looking for excuses rather than dwelling to the root of the problem. IMO the fire seems to have erupted from Polo's battery as the left side seems to be on fire in the first image.

Cardeep,

The Esteem has minimal frontal damage as compared to POLO. Also, as someone mentioned, there was NO explosion whatsoever; If there was, one, I wouldn't be typing this as the cars were parked right next to my office
amtak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:28   #281
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 46,261
Thanked: 78,619 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Quote:
Originally Posted by mempheS.D View Post
Thanks GTO. May we know where this statement was published? I couldn't find anything on google India. And neither has <amtak> uploaded the photos yet. Please do so.
Published on Team-BHP

Statement received from VW via email.
GTO is offline   (4) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:28   #282
Senior - BHPian
 
srishiva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 3,443
Thanked: 676 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Maybe the front tyre caught fire in the Polo which caused the damage later.
Regarding paint, they are water based !
srishiva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:33   #283
Senior - BHPian
 
amtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!!
Posts: 2,772
Thanked: 331 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by srishiva View Post
Maybe the front tyre caught fire in the Polo which caused the damage later.
Regarding paint, they are water based !
Culprit and the Victim; who's which? You decide!

Quote:
Originally Posted by samarjitdhar View Post
Take it easy friend . Unless one had witnessed everything at close quarters its not advisable to sit on judgement and use the "jump to conclusions" mat pronto. Sure VW should have publicly released more information about the previous fire incidents but for now lets stop dumping on VW as it is proven that the Esteem was the culprit.

EDIT: Now I am adding all CNG kitted Esteems to the list of cars next to which my Vento will never ever be parked
How about less than 25 meters from the site? I had my breakfast and tea while witnessing the whole scenario; luckily the fire hose was just next to the car park and hence, it was doused immediately.
Attached Images
  

Last edited by mobike008 : 3rd August 2012 at 16:48. Reason: Back to back posts. Repeat will attract infraction
amtak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:44   #284
BHPian
 
samarjitdhar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney/Kolkata
Posts: 964
Thanked: 476 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Quote:
Originally Posted by amtak View Post
How about less than 25 meters from the site? I had my breakfast and tea while witnessing the whole scenario; luckily the fire hose was just next to the car park and hence, it was doused immediately.
Sure but you were not an affected party to the investigations right? It might be a good idea if you could please verify the same with the actual owners before apportioning blame in light of the email from VW, isn't it. You yourself have stated that the cause was not clear to you. I am not an apologist for VW here but it would be unfair to blame them without clear evidence.
samarjitdhar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2012, 16:52   #285
Senior - BHPian
 
amtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!!
Posts: 2,772
Thanked: 331 Times
Default Re: Accidents : Vehicles catching fire in India

Quote:
Originally Posted by samarjitdhar View Post
Sure but you were not an affected party to the investigations right? It might be a good idea if you could please verify the same with the actual owners before apportioning blame in light of the email from VW, isn't it. You yourself have stated that the cause was not clear to you. I am not an apologist for VW here but it would be unfair to blame them without clear evidence.

Dear Samarjit,

Please note that I am not blaming VW. I am requesting them to clarify their stand, which they have done now as per their email to GTO. I am neither the affected party nor the benefeciary here; However, I am a potential VW customer in the near future, but I would not like to see myself or my near and dear one getting charred to death for no fault of their own (like the Vento owner in pune).

I posted what I saw; and when I heard about the Esteem, I did post about it as well as a potential cause to the fire.
amtak is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Supercars & Imports catching fire in India gemballa Super-Cars & Imports in India 48 22nd November 2016 16:13
Catching speed violators from INSIDE the Delhi Traffic Police Interceptor sidindica The Indian Car Scene 65 20th November 2015 18:23
Pune: Man sets fire to 92 vehicles near Sinhagad Road spyder_p8 Street Experiences 11 6th July 2015 12:31
Cars catching fire diffsoft The Indian Car Scene 1 1st August 2009 13:16
Audi Catching up with BMW? madan80 The International Automotive Scene 16 21st February 2008 13:06


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 06:08.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks