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Old 28th August 2007, 22:05   #121
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We have not seen the real car, so its pointless to mod what is primarily our imagination and not a solid baseline.
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ram maybe if the roof is made a little roundish to match the bonnet and the rear maybe it would look better than right now with the flat roof. i would agree with 1100d here but let us feel happy with a better design for the car and see if suzuki matches our expectation. hope you agree with me.
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hey i did respond to your post yesterday only,some how my post did not reach.
anyways this is what i wrote,

hmmm.. doesnot look that bad, well actually it does, it is just simply ugly . are you sure you are not the one who designed it for Maruti.

but one thing is for sure this will still sell.no matter how it looks


great job done

take care
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Infact swift(platform) based Sedan is already there as SX4, right? I remember reading in some auto magazines that Sedici/SX4 is based on swift platform.
So what ever comes now has to be a totally new one.
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hmmm.. doesnot look that bad, well actually it does, it is just simply ugly . are you sure you are not the one who designed it for Maruti.
Am I missing something? The spy-pics are out?
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Infact swift(platform) based Sedan is already there as SX4, right? I remember reading in some auto magazines that Sedici/SX4 is based on swift platform.
So what ever comes now has to be a totally new one.
SX4 is based on extended swift platform.

This one should be built on the same platform if they are to meet pricing!

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what's a platform versus extended platform???
if they want to make a sedan out of swift, they HAVE to extend it.
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what's a platform versus extended platform???
if they want to make a sedan out of swift, they HAVE to extend it.
I believe 'extension' mainly boils down to wheel base etension and related changes. Experts...
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Wasn't the esteem a swift of its time?

And you don't need to do Tata and re-use the body panels to make a sedan. You can have a considerably different shape on the same platform. So, speculations of adding a boot to the existing swift are just that, speculations.
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Wasn't the esteem a swift of its time?
Very true, just like the Baleno was designated as Esteem in some territories.

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And you don't need to do Tata and re-use the body panels to make a sedan.
Didn't FIAT do the same with Palio/Siena/Weekend/Adventure? Hasn't Renault done the same with Logan in Europe? Hasn't Honda done the same with Fit/Jazz/City? When you decide to have many body types based on the same platform, the cheapest option (for the manufacturer as well as the customer) is to use the same panels. That's what modularization is all about.

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You can have a considerably different shape on the same platform.
Yes, you can have different looking cars on the same platform, but then they would cost more.

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So, speculations of adding a boot to the existing swift are just that, speculations.
Even when a fellow team-bhpian has actually seen the car? Please read previous posts on this thread carefully.
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The sx4 is not based on the swift platform ,it is an all new platform developed by suzuki and fiat.



SX4
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The sx4 is not based on the swift platform ,it is an all new platform developed by suzuki and fiat.



SX4
yes rahul is right.
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Default SX4 is MODIFIED AND EXTENDED SWIFT PLATFORM

The SX4 is a modified and extended Swift platform. The only role Fiat plays is giving diesel engine and getting a car to fill gap in their portfolio.

Fiat was in bad shape so it sold many engines to car manufacturers, and thats why we have Swift D with 1248cc award winning engine. Similarly fiat also sells the 1.9 JTd to suzuki for the SX4 and Viatra range.

But overall the SX4 is MODIFIED AND EXTENDED SWIFT PLATFORM
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yes rahul is right.
I don't think so. I clearly remember reading about SX4 SUV(Sedici) which is termed as Swift based SUV in Autocar magazine.
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I don't think so. I clearly remember reading about SX4 SUV(Sedici) which is termed as Swift based SUV in Autocar magazine.
Hi siva,

i will come to support the statment tomorrow, finally boss ne keh hi diya saare team-bhp kaam bhi kar le yaar.
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The SX4 is a modified and extended Swift platform. The only role Fiat plays is giving diesel engine and getting a car to fill gap in their portfolio.

Fiat was in bad shape so it sold many engines to car manufacturers, and thats why we have Swift D with 1248cc award winning engine. Similarly fiat also sells the 1.9 JTd to suzuki for the SX4 and Viatra range.

But overall the SX4 is MODIFIED AND EXTENDED SWIFT PLATFORM
You are talking about Indian version of SX4, right? (This thread is about indian versions of these cars)

SX4 is petrol-only version now and has 1.6L engine. Where does discussion of Fiat diesel engine to SX4 fit?

BTW, Check this out So How Many Platforms Does Maruti Have?

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MUL has also brought in its fourth platform with the introduction of the 1.6 litre SX4 sedan, which is pitted against the Honda City, Hyundai Verna, General Motors's Optra and Ford Motor's Escort. This platform will be the base to introduce all MUL's new bigger cars."
***???
Isn't the SX4 Maruti's fifth platform? And Ford Escort? That died about a decade back. A tired, overworked writer or one too lazy to check facts?
It gets better further down the story. The writer further claims: MUL currently has three platforms. One is used to manufacture the M- 800 and Swift. The Esteem is manufactured from the second platform, and the Alto, WagonR and Zen Estilo, are manufactured from the third.
Which means, SX4 is altogether new platform.

Yet another link which says SX4 is based on Swift platform.

First Look: Maruti SX4 is Cool Machine- Pics - SantaBanta Forums

Another link which says SX4 is brand new platform Moneycontrol India :: News :: Maruti launches SX4 sedan :: Maruti Udyog :: Press- Market :: Maruti Udyog , SX4 sedan,Swift,,Suzuki Motor Corporation,,Jagdish Khattar

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