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Old 27th September 2010, 10:51   #1
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Renault-sourced 70 PS 1.5 dCi motor for the Nissan Micra this Diwali

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The recently launched Micra has won rave reviews and, as a product, it deserves those. Soon it will surely amass more accolades as the diesel version goes on sale by Diwali this year.

Indians love diesel. It is an indisputable fact, given the lure of low running costs. The sales of diesel small car have been getting better year after year and the Micra diesel is set to join the party.

It will be powered by a 70 PS version of Renault’s ubiquitous 1.5-litre diesel engine, which currently does duty in the Logan. A five-speed manual will handle transmission duties.

Considering the increased weight in the nose of the car, a stiffer suspension, including a sturdier anti-roll bar, is likely to be introduced. Nissan are likely to offer the same trim levels in the diesel version as well. The cost, when compared variant to variant, will probably be about 10 to 15 per cent higher.

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This is good news

The 1.5 dCi engine under the logan is a good all-rounder. I am not sure how Micra's body would take the vibrations from the old generation engine.

As the engine is 1.5 Litre, it will attract higher Excise Duty (14% more), plus the premium on a diesel will take the prices about 25-30% higher when compared to its petrol sibling.
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As the engine is 1.5 Litre, it will attract higher Excise Duty (14% more), plus the premium on a diesel will take the prices about 25-30% higher when compared to its petrol sibling.
No, it won't the CC of this engine is 1461 cc which falls under the 1.5 l for excise benefits.
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This is good news

The 1.5 dCi engine under the logan is a good all-rounder. I am not sure how Micra's body would take the vibrations from the old generation engine.

As the engine is 1.5 Litre, it will attract higher Excise Duty (14% more), plus the premium on a diesel will take the prices about 25-30% higher when compared to its petrol sibling.
I totally agree with you about this point, but seems to be a good competitor for Logan also. But this 1.5L dCi engine should be a engine that is to look out for along with Fiat's T-Jet engine.
But is this engine is a Renault sourced 5-speed gearbox 70PS engine or Nissan has built a new unit ??
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No, it won't the CC of this engine is 1461 cc which falls under the 1.5 l for excise benefits.
Sorry, my mistake.

Was thinking the limits of engine capacity to be 1.2 L for Petrol and 1.4 L for Diesel. Found out that the limit is actually 1.5 L for diesel.
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Since Renault and Nissan are partners, I guess the engine will be unchanged. So a 70bhp diesel and massive torque in a 900kg (weight of base petrol model, add approx 50kgs for diesel) body should make the Micra extremely quick and fuel efficient. I wouldn't be surprised if it is India's most fuel efficient diesel hatchback
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It will have an advantage on the NVH front since it will be a four pot instead of the (more vibration prone) 3-pot petrol. A lot of NHV may already have been taken care of due to the shakier version of the Petrol used.

What about an AT version?
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this is a very good step by Nissan who currently is facing the heat from its competitors for its petrol version Micra. This however, should bring Micra back in the game. The only point of concern being their paper thin dealer/service center, A.S.S and the price as compared to the giants !

I really really hope they price this well, something lesser than VW and near Ford

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No, it won't the CC of this engine is 1461 cc which falls under the 1.5 l for excise benefits.
IIRC Logan 1.5 dCi does not get excise benefit for being 1461cc.
All across, logan dCi has to bear the 20k excise for being a diesel.

It is categorised as 1.5L Diesel. That may be a reason for this.
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IIRC Logan 1.5 dCi does not get excise benefit for being 1461cc.
All across, logan dCi has to bear the 20k excise for being a diesel.

It is categorised as 1.5L Diesel. That may be a reason for this.
The excise is because of the length of Logan, not due to engine capacity. I think M&M is working on new Logan with shorter length and same engine to get excise benefit.
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The excise is because of the length of Logan, not due to engine capacity. I think M&M is working on new Logan with shorter length and same engine to get excise benefit.
Exactly, I wonder when M&M plans to come out with that one, and if it will continue to receive this K9K engine.

Unless they insulate the hood and firewall, the K9K is bound to be quite noisy on the Micra. The engine sounds on my colleague's Logan have increased quite a bit in 3 years , he does do good and regular maintenance on it. It sounded much like my Indica even though the K9K is a common rail.
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Noisy or not, the DCi will be ultra fuel efficient in the Micra, with a decent amount of pep to boot. The Micra diesel will be a sensible alternative to the Swift and Figo diesels. It has the looks of a winner.
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Micra D would be a much needed addition to Nissans portfolio. Without an economical Diesel, its difficult to make a mark in the hatch back arena.
Now, Nissan needs to spruce up its dealerships & service centres. Availability of spares & costs should not be an issue from the word go.
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Noisy or not, the DCi will be ultra fuel efficient in the Micra, with a decent amount of pep to boot. The Micra diesel will be a sensible alternative to the Swift and Figo diesels. It has the looks of a winner.
I totally agree with you that Micra D will be a definitely a good alternative to Figo & Swift & will be much fuel efficient, the only thing now Nissan should look out for is to have a larger boot space & turbo() if possible.
After all, in case of looks; it is a definite winner but Nissan should better service facilities along with the reasonable priced spares for it.
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I totally agree with you that Micra D will be a definitely a good alternative to Figo & Swift & will be much fuel efficient, the only thing now Nissan should look out for is to have a larger boot space & turbo() if possible.
After all, in case of looks; it is a definite winner but Nissan should better service facilities along with the reasonable priced spares for it.
Micra's boot space is adequate and much better than Swift. That is not the problem for Micra. The problem has been that the product has failed to create a stir in the market because it does not offer anything great which others don't offer and neither it is the ultimate VFM like a Figo. Pricing will be key here. If they are able to price it slightly higher than the Figo, then it will do fine. I feel the Logan diesel is a good engine with low turbo-lag and good driveability and will offer the best FE in class due to the low weight of the Micra.

One piece of advice to Nissan - drop the fancy features like the keyless GO and instead have rear headrests/alloys/steering audio controls/bluetooth etc.
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