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|6th October 2010, 11:05||#136|
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I understand that the ride in i10 need not be as good as in case of Swift, but it is good enough for a family where the space & legroom come into play. This is why you see the Ritz also selling (good) beside the Swift despite being a similar car (essentially).
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|6th October 2010, 11:32||#137|
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I think to claim i20 does not have competition is quite false as many cars do exist and you missed out on the Jazz, the point is the i20 is a very good all rounder at a great price and if others can't do it, their bad luck but it does have competition some badly equipped and some badly priced.
Coming to luxury cars, Audi just released their sales figures and while I do not have the break up, the sales for the month are 302 cars now if only we could get BMW India's sales figures it will make an interesting study. It's funny how last year when BMW would always be the first one out releasing their sales figures because they were leading, this year they seem to be the last to release sales figures every month.
P.S: Just realized the S-Class number changed from 84 to 86, and a thought came to mind, did Mercedes-Benz ever manage to sell any S-Guard cars? They had a lot of marketing going on for it, also remember a full page ad in TOI few months back, just curious was it just done to be in the lime light or is it selling as it was intended to?
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|6th October 2010, 11:35||#138|
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Impressive numbers there especially the Altos, Wagon Rs, Fortuners and Ventos. 1300+ units in the first month for Vento should add more attitude and snob value to the VW dealers.
City sales at 6000+ is impressive. With other Honda car sales dropping, wonder if Honda should suffix all their cars as City and call them City Jazz, City Civic and so on .
Fortuner at 998 is super massive. CR-V at 88 is a shame. Only if Honda would admit that.
|6th October 2010, 11:59||#139|
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L. '84' S-Class's? That alone is a huge new number for the segment, I wonder if this
All new Audi A8 seems to be rewriting the rules in this segment.
Intesresting times ahead.
|6th October 2010, 13:03||#140|
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Every segment needs atleast two good allrounder contenders(read: VFM + Looks + Badge+ resale) Wherever thats not happening, there seems to be a monopoly of sorts. Cases in point are the Alto, City and the i20. I might want to include the Fortuner but no idea about other SUVs.
Please pardon me for not knowing my As from the Bs, but here is my noob analysis.
Alto segment: No other competition. Nano has a long way to go.
The WagonR/Santro segment: Lots of cars with stiff competition. i10 gains from being in the shopping list of both the wagonR and Swift customers. The same might just happen with the Figo. Somehow, Chevrolet seems to have lost the plot here. Otherwise most cars are doing decent numbers.
The Swift segment: Only the Figo comes close and its doing well. However, if maruti is able to ramp up its production, we might just see a massacre.
The premium hatch: Already posted.
The entry Sedans: D'Zire waiting list says it all. People here might not be able to digest its looks but i see colleagues in office actually appreciating the amount of chrome it has Otherwise, it is an excellent car and a segment behemoth.
The Sedans: City rules again. Vento has just started. Linea is already in the doldrums(Reasons discussed to death - Though i absolutely love its looks)
Won't comment on others.
|6th October 2010, 14:17||#141|
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Kudos to Wagon-R, The numbers reflect in the cars reliability it is known for. I know one person living in Taluk place who has brought his 4th Wagon-R, every time the car is changed its Wagon-R again.
The numbers speak of trust in the car and am 100% sure its because of greater number of repeat buyers for the product.
Am a tad disappointed for Figo, since the numbers are running flat for past couple of months and its not been a year yet.
Another point that comes out is, the Market for small car is highly untapped, and there is so much space for everybody. Toyota is not in yet. I think it will continue to grow explosively for at least another 3-4 yrs.
It would be good to know if any housing money is being redirected into Car, people put off house purchase decision, influence here ? Any takers ?
Its the right time for entrepreneur to jump into the non-authorised service/repair business. The critical mass is building up and there is pie for every one.
|6th October 2010, 16:05||#142|
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Yep ! Nano has really a long way to go in future.
I am not sure about future life of Alto.
This is being discussed in another thread by GTO regarding on the shelf availability of Nano
|6th October 2010, 16:10||#143|
Some more analysis
Had some free time, so whipped up some Excel magic
Breakup by segment:
Hatchback and Sedan breakup by sub-segment:
My definition of the sub-segment (so sue me! )
Finally, a summary view of all car sales by segment:
Feel free to use and abuse at will!
|6th October 2010, 16:14||#144|
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Thanks for the superb breakup Noops-IT Manager.
Among hatchbacks, Premium hatchback - 46%. WOW!
|6th October 2010, 16:17||#146|
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|6th October 2010, 16:21||#147|
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Good work @noopster.
But for the sake of correctness, the hatchback classification should be as follows -
Hatchbacks - entry
Hatchbacks - mid
Hatchbacks - premium
I am not going to do the caclulations based on the above classification
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|6th October 2010, 16:38||#148|
Damn... just missed the 20 minute window!
Thanks for pointing out the errors, folks. Am sure there are more .
Anyway, this is the corrected SUV tally:
And how could I forget?- the MUV tally:
@adimicra- I included Spark as a "small car"
Also, a couple of important segments that got missed out...
Mods- can you merge this into the original post as an edit? Thanks!
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|6th October 2010, 17:43||#149|
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To give perspective, the C- Classe sales actually grew MoM, even so the E overtook it. IMO, its the 1st time that its happened in a long long time!!
I am just bowled over by the E- Class ever since I lived with it for a few days- seemingly like many in US and India.
|6th October 2010, 19:37||#150|
Sep 2010 versus Sep 2009 figures!
A quick comparison with Sep 2009 figures. Remember back then we were smack in the middle of a recession! Also, there might have been a specific dip in the month which we may not be able to account for. But the numbers are telling:
Small car segment: shows a massive growth of 10,000 cars/month, up 33% from last September. This has been single-handedly driven by the Alto (30K units compared to 20K). All the other players (Nano, Spark and M800) have degrown to on average half their Sep 2009 levels.
- New launches account for a massive 13,282 cars (3000 Polos & Beats each, 6500 Figos and the rest Micras) in Sep 2010.
- Hyundai's i20 has grown a massive 84% to 7600+ units. Plus, back then even the Getz had 364 takers.
- Wagon R has grown 30% on a strong base to 14,000+ (courtesy the refresh no doubt). Swift performs strongly with 23% over last years almost-10K number. Ritz is stable at 6000-odd.
- i10 + Santro maintained a steady 21,000 between them.
-Big sufferer is Tata with Indica+Vista notching up barely 6000 to last year's almost-5 digit figure. Any idea what the reason is?
- The Punto sold only 900-odd this Sep, compared to last year's 1500+.
- 150% growth for the Indigos to 8783 units. This includes the Manza, which wasn't part of the stable in 2009.
- Honda City romps to over 6000 units from 4000-odd, despite the Vento notching up 1300-odd in its first month of launch.
- The Dzire matches its hatchback sibling's growth and is currently at an impressive 8500 units.
- Logan impresses with nearly double its 510 tally last year. Change of hands bearing fruit?
- SX4 is at an impressive 2000 units compared to around average 800 last year (Sep 09 was a temporary dip at 433).
-Skoda with Laura and the impressive Superb notch up a 1200+ number compared to last fall's 900. Altis also grows an impressive 20% to nearly 1100 units.
- Ford loses out big time with Fiesta + Ikon at barely half their 2009 tally of 3100.
- Linea like its hatch sibling, tanks 30% to just around 700. The Chevy twins (Aveo + Optra) follow suit, possibly showing their age.
Link to last September's thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-analysis.html (September 2009 Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis)
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