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Old 5th April 2011, 17:51   #316
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From the cars i have driven,

Best : Fiesta, ikon
Average : Spark
Worst : Santro
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Ok let me add another champion to the list, The BMW X1. It now has the best steering on any passenger car sold in India today. The previous champion the BMW 3 series now comes with servo-tronic EPS system.

The downside is the steering in X1 is just too heavy at parking speed, a royal pain. At speed it's simply brilliant- perfect weight, direct with no slack, just the right speed not too slow not too fast and screams with feedback all the time.
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The steering of the FIGO is good however i thouoght it is a bit tight. Can anyone comment on this please?

Would the streeing of the IKON and the FIGO be so different consideting they both come from ford!
Hydraulic steerings are tight as they generally offer more feel and feedback. If you found the Figo steering to be heavy then you should try driving my Fusion TDCi, it will make your arms cry . However I like tight and heavy steerings.
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Hydraulic steerings are tight as they generally offer more feel and feedback.
Not true. It depends on a lot of other factors too. A hydraulic steering can be made superlight too by adding more hydraulic assistance, a well calibrated EPS system can be great.

The classic example here is the Verna with superlight HPS steering, is it any better than the Swift/SX4's EPS steering?? Not at all for me.
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Not true. It depends on a lot of other factors too. A hydraulic steering can be made superlight too by adding more hydraulic assistance, a well calibrated EPS system can be great.

The classic example here is the Verna with superlight HPS steering, is it any better than the Swift/SX4's EPS steering?? Not at all for me.
Anshuman, That is why i used the word "generally" .
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Ok let me add another champion to the list, The BMW X1. It now has the best steering on any passenger car sold in India today. The previous champion the BMW 3 series now comes with servo-tronic EPS system.
Its puzzling as to why they would put HPS on an SUV and EPS on a sport sedan that is the worldwide benchmark for steering feel. Same strategy on 5-5GT
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It just shows how relative everything is. The 3 series lost the feel in 2000 or 2001 when they boosted the steering compared to the previous one.
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Best - Fiat linea and fiesta s
Worst - Estilo and Wagon r
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It just shows how relative everything is. The 3 series lost the feel in 2000 or 2001 when they boosted the steering compared to the previous one.
That was in 98 for the E46 launch. It was fixed for the 01 FL.
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What about the alto K10?Havnt driven too many cars so cant make much of a comparison but i found the steering of the K10,to be good for a EPS.Light at parking speeds,not much a feedback but not extremely lose either,at high speeds its quite stable.
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The steering of the FIGO is good however i thouoght it is a bit tight. Can anyone comment on this please?

Would the streeing of the IKON and the FIGO be so different consideting they both come from ford!
I found the steering of Figo pretty good. But not as good as the small wheel on my Ikon Nxt.

Well, last time my friend was complaining that there is something wrong with my Ikon's steering wheel, and I initially couldn't understand what he was talking about. But later when I took his Accent out to park in a different slot, the whole thing started making sense. It was his problem of understanding precision
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Not true. It depends on a lot of other factors too. A hydraulic steering can be made superlight too by adding more hydraulic assistance, a well calibrated EPS system can be great.

The classic example here is the Verna with superlight HPS steering, is it any better than the Swift/SX4's EPS steering?? Not at all for me.
Is is possible to make the FIGO steering lighter in the way you mentioned? If yes can you please explain the procedure and how much it would cost
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^ Do not try it, You will ruin the car.
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I have two extremes.
One was the carb zen, no power steering one.
it feels heavy now, compared to all the PS around, but great feedback.it was if it adapted the feedback to how you were driving.
If you drove sedately, easy peasy, but if you were spirited, it let you know not only what you were travelling over and the limits of that surface, but somehow was also able to tell you exactly where the front wheels were(as in, how close to where you intended it to be....is this making sense?it sounded clearer in my head.still does.)

Current contender is the fiesta.
by no measure a flick and roar drive, but in a sea of slow moving traffic, with non-dangerous(to me or others) gaps, the transitions feel almost like the zen(albeit with much less effort )
You sometimes wish it was a RWD with at least double the power figures to see how it's drift....but hey, i might just be talking through my hat....
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Best - Fiat Linea, Punto and Figo
Worst - I10, Wagon R and Honda City

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