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Old 5th January 2011, 10:55   #121
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Furthermore, VW Polo and Vento offer the enthusiasts a better package compared to FIAT Punto and Linea. VW has the build quality, engines, handling, ride, looks etc of FIATS and does not compromise on brand image and resale value as much! To people who prefer european cars to Japanese, VW offers a better package compared to FIAT!
I beg to differ here.

Though I agree to the point that Fiat is expected to fail. But that is ONLY because of their stupid, good-for-nothing Sales & Marketing teams. I don't know what the hell these teams are doing seating in their offices. And for God's sake and their own sake, Fiat should move away from Tata.

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So, what would be a better way to analyse these numbers is to plot a "cumulative" graph for each car. Further, there could be one graph for every segment like hatch, sedan, MUV, SUV etc.

Let me know what you guys think about this - i can invest some time on this if you all think it is a good idea.
do you mean YoY sales... If you could do that, it would be nice
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Well. The Toyota Etios numbers confirm that these are the units reaching the dealers and not the sales figures. Now, although this is an indicator of the bookings and future sales, one cannot go by these numbers fluctuating over each month.
+1 on that.

The Etios figures also includes demo cars which are sent to the dealers.Infact, all the figures which are discussed on this thread are the primary sales figures (from company to the dealer).
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The Fiat India problem is also caused by a poorly executed product, compounded by poor sales and after sales.
On the product side, their poor fit and finish, driven by a reliance on the Tata supply chain results in a car that most Indians will no longer accept. Even on the engineering side, it is a mystery why Maruti and even Tata seem to have done a better job in their cars with a Fiat engine.
These are things that cannot be corrected by just fancy marketing moves. From all that has been seen till now, I do not see that the Fiat management team has the strength of character and management skills it will take to succeed, and I see this as a third and final failure for Fiat in India. Based on my Fiat showroom visit in June 2009, I had then asked the question here about whether history will repeat itself in India for Fiat and earned significant criticism for even daring to ask such a question from Fiat, shall we say, well wishers.

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The numbers reported here are already known to be manufacturer to dealer ones. It was made clear a long long ago here !!
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Fiat

Linea : 189
Punto : 62
Palio : 23
500 : 1
Is this means they have cleared all 2010 models from the factory?. Hope the January'11 sales figures will be high like we seen in the case of Nano.
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I have no idea why the Mitsuibishi is pricing the EVO so high, its never gonna appeal to the people unless for some rich speed freaks. I never expected it to be more than 15 lakhs but grrrr it goes beyond 25 i guess. A person would rather pick up an A4, 3 Series or C class for that money.

Just to clarify, the EVO is @ 48 lakhs.
This makes it potentially as expensive as the 530d and Jaguar XF D OTR.

I dont see why anyone would want to buy the EVO after seeing the pricing.
The enthusiasts too have more than enough choices at that price
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The numbers reported here are already known to be manufacturer to dealer ones. It was made clear a long long ago here !!
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The sales figures are wholesale figures. vehicles shipped from Company to dealer . They dont reflect the actual retail sale of the vehicle. So the cars various dealers sold in december are from the november lot.
Time and again it has been mentioned that all the figures discussed/mentioned are PRIMARY SALES FIGURES (FROM COMPANY TO DEALERS)

The SECONDARY SALES FIGURES (FROM DEALERS TO CUSTOMERS) are collected by the territory sales officers from each dealer from their sales territory and compiled.Based on these SECONDARY SALES FIGURES,stock in hand and stock in transit,the dealer is supplied (or rather invoiced) cars for the next month.How ever, these calculations vary for fast/slow moving models, marketing strategy and discounts for a particular model and new launches.

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No VW numbers yet.

VW makes a lot of difference to the numbers and perception overall.
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We are eagerly awaiting the figures of Audi, BMW and VW for December.
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Retail sales are different from the sales posted here which are just sales from factory to dealers.

To give you an example heres a news article from economic times today.

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NEW DELHI: Retail car sales zoomed to the highest level in December as year-end discounts prodded customers to buy new cars.

Maruti Suzuki, the country's largest car maker, topped charts with its retail sales touching record 1.38-lakh mark in December, 54% higher than the 89,469 cars it dispatched from its factories in the same month. Ditto for Hyundai Motors that sold over 51,000 cars as against a wholesale figure (number of cars dispatched from factories ) of 26,168 cars. While Honda Siel India sold over 6,200 cars in the same month, Toyota sold over 7,500 cars.
So there is a margin of almost 50% between retail and actual sales.

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Volkswagen Figures Are

Polo 2356
Vento 3160
Jetta 236
Passat 0
Phaeton 2
Touareg 0
Beetle 18
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Excellent sales figures for the VW group. Honda City finally has a worthy competition. I guess thats a good thing as we may see some more offers on the City. Polo numbers seem a little less compared to the competition.
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Rubbertramps

Mazda 3 here competes with Ford Focus not with Ford Fiesta.
Ford Fiesta competes with Mazda 2.

I don't think in any way Mazda 3 looks like Ford Fiesta at all.

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Volkswagen Figures Are

Polo 2356
Vento 3160
Jetta 236
Passat 0
Phaeton 2
Touareg 0
Beetle 18
Thats an excellent figure.

Models in less than 10Lac sedans are actually increasing. Will be good to watch this space after say 6 months.

And how about the waiting period for Vento? Is it available of the shelf now?
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