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Old 6th April 2011, 11:53   #61
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Figo which is getting exported to South Africa from India has the 1.4 Litre Duratec Petrol engine. It makes business sense to plonk that engine to the Fiesta Classic. Price can be reduced and the additional 15K tax for engines larger than 1500cc can be avoided. It will help to bring the starting price below 5Lacs ex-showroom.
That is indeed good news to hear that the 1.4 is still in production. So I guess the logical choice would be to plonk that engine into the fiesta classic.

Just a question about the tax structure that you have mentioned. The saving of Rs 15k for diesel engines smaller than 1500 cc, isnt that linked with the size of the car as well? My understanding is that to avail that tax benefit a car has to have a diesel engine smaller than 1500 cc's as well as be shorter than 4 mtrs.

Am a bit puzzled, can anyone shed some light?
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Just a question about the tax structure that you have mentioned. The saving of Rs 15k for diesel engines smaller than 1500 cc, isnt that linked with the size of the car as well? My understanding is that to avail that tax benefit a car has to have a diesel engine smaller than 1500 cc's as well as be shorter than 4 mtrs.

Am a bit puzzled, can anyone shed some light?
Sub 1200cc petrol and sub 1500cc diesel engines on cars whose length is less than 4 metre qualify for lower excise duty of 10% for small cars. Other cars are taxed at 22% excise duty. In addition to the above clause if the car engine is larger than 1500cc (be it petrol or diesel) then there is an additional tax of Rs 15000 over and above the higher 22% excise duty of big cars.

So basically this means

1.4 L duratec Petrol Fiesta will be charged at 22% excise duty
1.6 L duratec Petrol Fiesta will be charged 22% excise duty and an additional Rs 15K as the engine is above 1500 cc.
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Sub 1200cc petrol and sub 1500cc diesel engines on cars whose length is less than 4 metre qualify for lower excise duty of 10% for small cars. Other cars are taxed at 22% excise duty. In addition to the above clause if the car engine is larger than 1500cc (be it petrol or diesel) then there is an additional tax of Rs 15000 over and above the higher 22% excise duty of big cars.

So basically this means

1.4 L duratec Petrol Fiesta will be charged at 22% excise duty
1.6 L duratec Petrol Fiesta will be charged 22% excise duty and an additional Rs 15K as the engine is above 1500 cc.
Thanx for the clarification . But it does make you wonder why Ford decided to eliminate the 1.4 fiesta few years back in the first place. makes no sense (to me) to eliminate a cheaper to produce engine as well as to give up the Rs. 15,000 cash discount for using a sub 1500cc engine.

But it does not matter now i guess as ford is probably going to do exactly that now with the fiesta classic.
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Fiesta petrol resale will definitely take a hit. Even more reason for me to upgrade.
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Fiesta petrol resale will definitely take a hit. Even more reason for me to upgrade.
Me too.
Anyway, If I was going to buy a NEW Fiesta (Classic), I'd sincerely wish they'd continue with the 1.6L engine unless the 1.4 has better FE and is not such a bad performer. We wouldn't mind paying 15-30k extra to go fida, or would we?
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Figo which is getting exported to South Africa from India has the 1.4 Litre Duratec Petrol engine. It makes business sense to plonk that engine to the Fiesta Classic. Price can be reduced and the additional 15K tax for engines larger than 1500cc can be avoided. It will help to bring the starting price below 5Lacs ex-showroom.
The 1.5L rule also have another clause on the lenght of the car, that being the case since Classic Fiesta is more than 4mtrs dont think they can claim the tax benefit.
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A stripped version doesn't make sense if the exisiting Fiesta was to be continued with a 'classic' tag or otherwise, considering that newer cars mostly offer all the features. Coupled to a dated design, lack of features and other cost cutting would just leave this great car to languish in the yards.
IMO, it would be better to up-equip the existing car with things like reworked head-tail lights, sun-roof, leather wrapped everything, steering mounted controls, meety tires, an automatic shift option for the convenience seekers, brighter metallic colours and price it a tad higher than the current model and also put a mouth watering option of the new 1.6L/120 horses motor at an even higher cost but just overlapping between the low-mid variant of the all new Fiesta. Now that may qualify for a classic. To fill the gap between the Figo and the Classic, they could introduce the Figo with the 1.6L/100 horses motor and call the Figo Sport or something. Heck, I think I just described my dream cars there.
Meanwhile, in reality, if Ford continues with this and launches the Classic Fiesta at a reduced price than the current one, where does that leave the owners of the car who bought in 2008 to 2010 looking for a resale? Ford's been pulling this fast one on them for a number of times now in the name of limited editions. Only those looking for the current Fiesta in the used car market may rejoice.
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A stripped version doesn't make sense if the exisiting Fiesta was to be continued with a 'classic' tag or otherwise, considering that newer cars mostly offer all the features. Coupled to a dated design, lack of features and other cost cutting would just leave this great car to languish in the yards.
IMO, it would be better to up-equip the existing car with things like reworked head-tail lights, sun-roof, leather wrapped everything, steering mounted controls, meety tires, an automatic shift option for the convenience seekers, brighter metallic colours and price it a tad higher than the current model and also put a mouth watering option of the new 1.6L/120 horses motor at an even higher cost but just overlapping between the low-mid variant of the all new Fiesta.
All this ^^^ = perfect recipe for disaster.
I wouldn't call the "classic" as stripped down, because, the base classic basically seems like the outgoing EXi model. About body colored stuff, those can be thrown in as a dealer opt. freebie. It will probably sell at the same price as that of the Dzire, which is meant to be a segment lower. So, we could definitely find many takers for the old Fiesta at the price of the Dzire, minus the Nippon Audio, as they get a car that's a segment higher, with better interiors & image, as well as better FE (Diesel) or not as good FE (Petrol).
Putting the 1.6L in the "Classic" would pull away sales from the new fiesta.
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Putting the 1.6L in the "Classic" would pull away sales from the new fiesta.
Hey, is peaceful coexistence between models necessary so long as the profits are reaped by the same company? I mean, look at the i20, so many variants with so many options, three engines to choose from at various trim levels and it sells. The base version of the i20 is overlapped with the top variants of the i10 and Hyundai is not complaining one bit. The point is to keep the customer in the showroom for longer with more varieties to choose from than have him walk away at all. Maruti provides so many models and variants to choose from, all in hatchbacks, all competing with each and also with other companies. Maruti won't mind too much if an 800 was sold instead of an Alto instead of an A Star instead of a Wagon R.
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Figo which is getting exported to South Africa from India has the 1.4 Litre Duratec Petrol engine. It makes business sense to plonk that engine to the Fiesta Classic. Price can be reduced and the additional 15K tax for engines larger than 1500cc can be avoided. It will help to bring the starting price below 5Lacs ex-showroom.
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That is indeed good news to hear that the 1.4 is still in production. So I guess the logical choice would be to plonk that engine into the fiesta classic.

Just a question about the tax structure that you have mentioned. The saving of Rs 15k for diesel engines smaller than 1500 cc, isnt that linked with the size of the car as well? My understanding is that to avail that tax benefit a car has to have a diesel engine smaller than 1500 cc's as well as be shorter than 4 mtrs.

Am a bit puzzled, can anyone shed some light?
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Sub 1200cc petrol and sub 1500cc diesel engines on cars whose length is less than 4 metre qualify for lower excise duty of 10% for small cars. Other cars are taxed at 22% excise duty. In addition to the above clause if the car engine is larger than 1500cc (be it petrol or diesel) then there is an additional tax of Rs 15000 over and above the higher 22% excise duty of big cars.

So basically this means

1.4 L duratec Petrol Fiesta will be charged at 22% excise duty
1.6 L duratec Petrol Fiesta will be charged 22% excise duty and an additional Rs 15K as the engine is above 1500 cc.
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The 1.5L rule also have another clause on the lenght of the car, that being the case since Classic Fiesta is more than 4mtrs dont think they can claim the tax benefit.
Hi xingamazon, this very point was discussed earlier. i was under the exact impression you are and allwheeldrive was kind enough to explain it out. Now we are both that much wiser
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The diesels will be hugely popular . Economical , decent built , good ride , will prompt people to go for it . Though the petrol is brilliant unit , and at a price cut it will be a staggering buy , I think only people with tight budget will go for it , otherwise most would go for the new fiesta .
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Hi all,

The fiesta classic has been launched (according to ford media)

Check out the link below for the details

Both petrol and Diesel available with new interiors !

Petrol starts from 5.5 Ex and Diesel from 6.5Ex Delhi

http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=34355

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Ford has launched the Classic variant of the Fiesta which replaces the existing Fiesta range. There are two variants of the petrol and diesel each. The Fiesta Classic eyes the Swift Dzire and Toyota Etios buyer.

Ford Fiesta Classic features

- Classic car with affordable price
- 1.6L (101PS) petrol, 1.4L (68PS) diesel
- LXI, CLXI and SXI variants
- New dual tone instrument panel
- New graphic metallic center and floor console finish
- New ebony and Hub-styled seat fabric and door trims
- Colorado Red is the new color addition


Ford Fiesta Classic Press Release

Ford launches Fiesta Classic
• New stylish Fiesta Classic will continue delivering quality, on-road dynamics and best-in-class fuel efficiency
• Refreshingly new interiors with Ebony and Jasper Blue instrument panel, centre and floor console finished in Graphic Metallic, new seats, trims and a new badge
• New Fiesta Classic starts at Rs. 549,030 (ex-showroom, Delhi)
• Definitively classy and affordable, the Fiesta Classic will be available 3 variants LXI | CLXI | SXI each offering both petrol and diesel engine options
Chennai, India, 7 April, 2011 – Legends are known to reinvent themselves for a new innings. After establishing a strong foothold in the Indian market by winning over 100,000 customers, Fiesta – the legendary sedan from Ford is set to better its success story in the B segment with the new `Fiesta Classic’.
The Fiesta Classic will address a much broader customer base with two new trims – LXI and CLXI. With this the Classic becomes more attractive and affordable with the petrol variants starting at Rs. 549,030 (ex-showroom, Delhi) and diesel variants at Rs. 648,000 (ex-showroom, Delhi). In its new form, the much acclaimed sedan will be available to more customers who now can experience the Fiesta Classic’s superior drivability, aesthetic styling and best-in-class fuel efficiency with an all new interior package.
“With a proud and loyal customer base, the Fiesta has been one of the main stays of our product brand portfolio in India. With the elegant Fiesta Classic’s thrilling on-road dynamics, refreshingly classy new interiors and proven frugality we invite more customers to experience and benefit from the additional new variants we are offering with our classy product.” said Michael Boneham, managing director and president, Ford India.
Spirited performance and proven drivability
The new Fiesta Classic retains its core characteristics of surefooted balance on the road, responsive steering and compliant suspension. Its reputation as a driver’s car is enhanced by its refined, trusty and proven 1.6 Duratec and 1.4 Duratorq powertrains, which deliver on the optimum mix of gripping performance and frugal fuel consumption.
Class and style within customers’ reach
The elegant new Fiesta Classic gets a refreshingly classy new interior with Ebony and Jasper Blue coloured instrument panel, a new centre and floor console finished in Graphic Metallic, new seats with soft feel fabric and enhanced dual-tone door trims. In addition, all the product variants will display the ‘Classic’ moniker and will be available in a striking new body colour – Colorado Red. It is offered in both petrol and diesel engine options across three variants – LXI, CLXI and SXI to suit growing customer requirements.
Reliable as well as frugal
Thrilling performance and fuel efficiency are signature attributes of the Fiesta Classic, which customers have been experiencing and enjoying throughout their ownership. This was proven once again by delivering 30 kmpl with the diesel and 20 kmpl with the petrol, as per a cross-country drive undertaken by a leading automotive magazine.
Recently, Fiesta was ranked highest by TNS for Customer Satisfaction in the `Midsize Segment’, in their latest Automotive 2010 India Total Customer Satisfaction (TCS) study.
In addition to the new Colorado Red, customers can choose from the existing six colour options –Moondust Silver, Diamond White, Panther Black, Sea Grey, Morello, and Chill.
Encouraged by the existing Fiesta Classic, Endeavour and The Figo’s remarkable success and popularity, Ford India plans to bring the all-new global premium sedan Fiesta into India later this year. This is part of its strategy to bolster Ford India’s portfolio with eight new models by middle of the decade.

Source :indianautosblog.com
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Thrilling performance and fuel efficiency are signature attributes of the Fiesta Classic, which customers have been experiencing and enjoying throughout their ownership. This was proven once again by delivering 30 kmpl with the diesel and 20 kmpl with the petrol, as per a cross-country drive undertaken by a leading automotive magazine.
Fiesta petrol gives 20kmpl??!! Some utter BS is written in this paragraph!!
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Looks like a good deal!
In the last pic, one can see Airbags. Hopefully there is ABS too.

Does anyone have any further details about the features in each model?

Fords website is not yet updated.
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