The lovely Premier Padmini S1 (Fiat 1100-D) - Team-BHP

Ram · 15th January 2006, 22:03

Premier Automobiles Ltd., erstwhile flagship company of the Walchand Hirachand Group, assembled Fiat's 1100cc cars from the 1950s until 1997.
The Fiat 1200 GranLuce Berlina, debuted in India in 1964 with the old faithful 1,089 cc engine. Premier manufactured it at their Kurla, Mumbai plant until they sold majority stake to Fiat SpA in Sept. 1997.

With minor modifications over the years, it was variously named, Fiat 1100, Fiat Millecento, Fiat 1100-Delight, Premier President and Premier Padmini.
Towards the end of its innings it even sported a diesel engine from Frateli Negri Machine (FNM), Italy.

My Padmini S1 has a 48 bhp normally aspirated engine, breathing through a Solex carburettor and mated to a 4-speed fully synchromeshed gearbox. The extra 9 bhp being achieved by the use of a thermostat controlled electric fan. After many years, vaccuum advance and retard was reintroduced in the Premier Padmini and the car effortlessly purrs to 120 km/hr.

Unleaded petrol was introduced in India in 1995 and my car has a catalytic converter, with an allergy for that other bane of Mumbai-suburbs, speed bumps!

Out of nostalgia for the 'fifties rock-n-roll era cars, with their wide white-wall tires, chrome and laid-back boulevard cruising style, I had this car painted red, white and blue
with 2K automotive acrylic. The red and the white were Hyundai colors and the metallic blue was a Tata color. Outfitted with stainless steel 'chrome' spears and a Hella high-mounted stop light, this lady is my pride and joy.

My car has fifties-style 14-inch wheels shod with 5.20-14 wide white wall nylon bias-ply tires--the last of an fading away upper-class. Finding 14" wheel covers was a challenge. Aftermarket wheel covers meant for a Toyota Qualis fit the bill. The wheel covers are held to the wheel by a chrome closed centre-nut. The bracket that holds the centre-nut screw was designed for the deeper wheel of the Qualis. I had to hammer it into shape for the Fiat.

...echoing Elton John
"Goodbye Fiat 1100-D, though I never knew you at all
You had the grace to hold yourself while those around you crawled.
They crawled out of the woodwork. And they whispered into your brain.
They set you on the treadmill, and they made you change your name.

This car was actually modded and rallied at one time with twin-carbs, free-flow exhaust and hot-plugs.

And it seems to me you lived your life like a candle in the wind.
Never knowing who to cling to when the rain set in.
And I would've liked to've known you but I was just a kid.
Your candle burned out long before your legend ever did."...

nitrous · 15th January 2006, 23:01

One of the few 'premier padmini' enthusiasts. I still have race videos of these cars rallying!

v1p3r · 15th January 2006, 23:12

Your car is beautiful. I respect your passion. I still have chilhood memories of this car...

Nitrous, I want those videos macha. Getting my HDD this time...

veyron1 · 15th January 2006, 23:21

hey, the pic ain't showing...the premier was a nice car: the MAIN reason for me loving the car, was the fact that it was a RWD....i remember when i did my first (involuntary) 360 on it, a LONG time ago... dunno why, but i liked the 118 NE better (a little) ; simply loved that makkhan gearbox....

moralfibre · 15th January 2006, 23:22

Nitrous could you please upload those videos on rapidshare or somewhere so that we can all have those videos please?

mclaren1885 · 15th January 2006, 23:23

Sweet !!! Sweet !!! Sweet .. Well thats the only word that i could think of ..

Steeroid · 15th January 2006, 23:26

VERY nice car...brings back old memories. White wall tyres and column-mounted shifts....

I need to get my bug fiat as soon as possible - before they become extinct. v1p3r has agreed to give me his V6 to plonk in there...

v1p3r · 15th January 2006, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

v1p3r has agreed to give me his V6 to plonk in there...

WHAT?!

man23ish · 15th January 2006, 23:40

I get nostalgic seeing old Padmini's and Ambys. I learnt my driving on an Amby and gave my road test on a Padmini.. Those, steering mounted gear-shift was just phenomenal..

veyron1 · 15th January 2006, 23:53

@man23ish: yeah, those column shifts were simply outta-this-world....

@steeroid&v1p3r: err...seems like neither of you have decided on the V6..may I have it then..?

v1p3r · 15th January 2006, 23:58

Veyron, stick to quad turbos and ten radiators, buddy!

What is it with the Mal folk and my V6?!

veyron1 · 16th January 2006, 00:09

@v1p3r...hahaha...yeah, i wish i could...

so does that mean you ARE getting in a V6...?

p.s- you a mal. too, right...?(not the material kind- talking about the lingo)

@ram- perhaps you could fit in a V6 in your fiat, eh..?

v1p3r · 16th January 2006, 00:21

Let's put it this way... I WANT to get a V6...

Yes, I am a Mal, and not the shopping kind!

devarshi84 · 16th January 2006, 00:26

I had a 68 fiat before (the baby ambassador looalike)

believe me it was fun. I would have loved to keep it well maintained your way but with so many cars it would be tough to maintain a classic car.

best of luck with your padmini. Would like to see it in form one day.

Ram · 16th January 2006, 04:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by veyron1

hey, the pic ain't showing...the premier was a nice car: the MAIN reason for me loving the car, was the fact that it was a RWD....i remember when i did my first (involuntary) 360 on it, a LONG time ago... dunno why, but i liked the 118 NE better (a little) ; simply loved that makkhan gearbox....

Do refresh your browser, you'll see the pic, veyron1.
And the makkhan gearbox is exactly what I have.
My Padmini is a 1995 S1 deluxe BU, with the Nissan fully-synchromeshed four-on-the-floor gearbox. It's action is like a knife through butter.
That year, Premier also gave it the Nissan differential from the 118NE.

15th January 2006, 22:03	#1 (permalink)
Ram Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai, Pune, München Posts: 1,530 View My Garage	The lovely Premier Padmini S1 (Fiat 1100-D) Premier Automobiles Ltd., erstwhile flagship company of the Walchand Hirachand Group, assembled Fiat's 1100cc cars from the 1950s until 1997. The Fiat 1200 GranLuce Berlina, debuted in India in 1964 with the old faithful 1,089 cc engine. Premier manufactured it at their Kurla, Mumbai plant until they sold majority stake to Fiat SpA in Sept. 1997. With minor modifications over the years, it was variously named, Fiat 1100, Fiat Millecento, Fiat 1100-Delight, Premier President and Premier Padmini. Towards the end of its innings it even sported a diesel engine from Frateli Negri Machine (FNM), Italy. My Padmini S1 has a 48 bhp normally aspirated engine, breathing through a Solex carburettor and mated to a 4-speed fully synchromeshed gearbox. The extra 9 bhp being achieved by the use of a thermostat controlled electric fan. After many years, vaccuum advance and retard was reintroduced in the Premier Padmini and the car effortlessly purrs to 120 km/hr. Unleaded petrol was introduced in India in 1995 and my car has a catalytic converter, with an allergy for that other bane of Mumbai-suburbs, speed bumps! Out of nostalgia for the 'fifties rock-n-roll era cars, with their wide white-wall tires, chrome and laid-back boulevard cruising style, I had this car painted red, white and blue with 2K automotive acrylic. The red and the white were Hyundai colors and the metallic blue was a Tata color. Outfitted with stainless steel 'chrome' spears and a Hella high-mounted stop light, this lady is my pride and joy. My car has fifties-style 14-inch wheels shod with 5.20-14 wide white wall nylon bias-ply tires--the last of an fading away upper-class. Finding 14" wheel covers was a challenge. Aftermarket wheel covers meant for a Toyota Qualis fit the bill. The wheel covers are held to the wheel by a chrome closed centre-nut. The bracket that holds the centre-nut screw was designed for the deeper wheel of the Qualis. I had to hammer it into shape for the Fiat. ...echoing Elton John "Goodbye Fiat 1100-D, though I never knew you at all You had the grace to hold yourself while those around you crawled. They crawled out of the woodwork. And they whispered into your brain. They set you on the treadmill, and they made you change your name. This car was actually modded and rallied at one time with twin-carbs, free-flow exhaust and hot-plugs. And it seems to me you lived your life like a candle in the wind. Never knowing who to cling to when the rain set in. And I would've liked to've known you but I was just a kid. Your candle burned out long before your legend ever did."...

15th January 2006, 23:01	#2 (permalink)
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 4,019 View My Garage	One of the few 'premier padmini' enthusiasts. I still have race videos of these cars rallying! __________________ Maruti - Everyone comes home with rattles

15th January 2006, 23:12	#3 (permalink)
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR - chasing cars... Posts: 4,148 View My Garage	Your car is beautiful. I respect your passion. I still have chilhood memories of this car... Nitrous, I want those videos macha. Getting my HDD this time... __________________ *Peace is a lie, there is only passion.*

15th January 2006, 23:21	#4 (permalink)
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,281 View My Garage	hey, the pic ain't showing...the premier was a nice car: the MAIN reason for me loving the car, was the fact that it was a RWD....i remember when i did my first (involuntary) 360 on it, a LONG time ago... dunno why, but i liked the 118 NE better (a little) ; simply loved that makkhan gearbox.... __________________ DAD

15th January 2006, 23:22	#5 (permalink)
moralfibre Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnyvale CA. Posts: 3,240 View My Garage	Nitrous could you please upload those videos on rapidshare or somewhere so that we can all have those videos please? __________________ Ask not what your country can do for you, think of a way you can make them do it!

15th January 2006, 23:23	#6 (permalink)
mclaren1885 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 3,848 View My Garage	Sweet !!! Sweet !!! Sweet .. Well thats the only word that i could think of .. __________________ ICNSAFYNCILWU. WMUL. AWLUFAEAE.

15th January 2006, 23:26	#7 (permalink)
Steeroid Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DXB Posts: 5,316 View My Garage	VERY nice car...brings back old memories. White wall tyres and column-mounted shifts.... I need to get my bug fiat as soon as possible - before they become extinct. v1p3r has agreed to give me his V6 to plonk in there... __________________ Cheers Steer Where all think alike, no one really thinks very much.

15th January 2006, 23:40	#9 (permalink)
man23ish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 566	Excellent Car !! I get nostalgic seeing old Padmini's and Ambys. I learnt my driving on an Amby and gave my road test on a Padmini.. Those, steering mounted gear-shift was just phenomenal..

15th January 2006, 23:53	#10 (permalink)
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,281 View My Garage	@man23ish: yeah, those column shifts were simply outta-this-world.... @steeroid&v1p3r: err...seems like neither of you have decided on the V6..may I have it then..? __________________ DAD

15th January 2006, 23:58	#11 (permalink)
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR - chasing cars... Posts: 4,148 View My Garage	Veyron, stick to quad turbos and ten radiators, buddy! What is it with the Mal folk and my V6?! __________________ *Peace is a lie, there is only passion.*

16th January 2006, 00:09	#12 (permalink)
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,281 View My Garage	@v1p3r...hahaha...yeah, i wish i could... so does that mean you ARE getting in a V6...? p.s- you a mal. too, right...?(not the material kind- talking about the lingo) @ram- perhaps you could fit in a V6 in your fiat, eh..? __________________ DAD

16th January 2006, 00:21	#13 (permalink)
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR - chasing cars... Posts: 4,148 View My Garage	Let's put it this way... I WANT to get a V6... Yes, I am a Mal, and not the shopping kind! __________________ *Peace is a lie, there is only passion.* Last edited by v1p3r : 16th January 2006 at 00:25.

16th January 2006, 00:26	#14 (permalink)
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 2,997 View My Garage	I had a 68 fiat before (the baby ambassador looalike) believe me it was fun. I would have loved to keep it well maintained your way but with so many cars it would be tough to maintain a classic car. best of luck with your padmini. Would like to see it in form one day. __________________ boyracer.blogspot.com

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