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Old 6th April 2011, 16:06   #1
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New Delhi, 6 April 2011: Maruti Suzuki India Limited today announced that it will inspect the 'Connecting Rod Bolt' for 13,157 units of Swift Dzire (4505 cars), Swift (6841 cars) and Ritz (1811 cars) diesel cars with engines manufactured between 13th November 2010 and 4th December 2010. If the Connecting Rod Bolt is found defective, the company will replace the component free of cost.

No other vehicles in the range or the vehicles exported by Maruti Suzuki are impacted.

Maruti Suzuki dealers will contact owners of the cars. The new part has been despatched to the dealer workshops.

Users of Maruti Suzuki diesel cars purchased after 13th November 2010, can check Maruti Suzuki Website to ascertain if their diesel engine car is among the above mentioned vehicles. Customer need to fill in the engine number (D13A followed by 7 digits) on the computer screen. Engine Number is embossed on vehicle ID plate and also on the vehicle registration documents. Customers may also contact the nearest Maruti Suzuki dealer workshop to ascertain if their car is amongst the above vehicles.

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Hi People,

Very interesting that Maruti will recall Diesel Engine Swift, but the big question lies What about TATA and Fiat Engines.

Replacing the con rod bolt means dismantiling the whole engine and honestly speaking how many people would like to see the whole engine into pieces of their new cars.

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So, MS joins the recall bandwagon.

Has any T-BHPian been informed of their vehicle being a part of the recall yet?

Interesting to see, DZire, Swift and Ritz are a part; Swift and DZire share the same chasis shape (most of it). How did Ritz become a part of this? Isn't it chasis type different from the rest 2?
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Hi People,

Very interesting that Maruti will recall Diesel Engine Swift, but the big question lies What about TATA and Fiat Engines.

Replacing the con rod bolt means dismantiling the whole engine and honestly speaking how many people would like to see the whole engine into pieces of their new cars.

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How does Tata and fiat come into picture? I think even if it is multijet engine, it is manufactured separately at Gurgaon.
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Interesting news. Finally MS also joins the recalling bandwagon. What they havent mentioned is what has promped the recall. Is it an internal quality check (belated of course) or a customer complaint, which has prompted the recall.
Also lay users need to know exactly whats the significance of the part being replaced. Only then will the full picture be clear.
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Interesting to see, DZire, Swift and Ritz are a part; Swift and DZire share the same chasis shape (most of it). How did Ritz become a part of this? Isn't it chasis type different from the rest 2?
Connecting rod bolt is an engine part used to connect (tighten) piston rods to the crank.

I am going to wait to know how they are going to inspect this w/o opening up the engine. Are they are planning to open 13k+ engines just to check if the bolts are okay? Does not seem logical. What if they open the engine and find that the bolts are okay, will they just put it back togather as is? Are dealers in general technically competant and well equipped to assemble it to factory specs? I guess customers are going to suffer due to this. I think it will require full engine opening up of the engine (not just head).

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Yup, just saw this news here Maruti to recall 13,157 diesel engine cars - Corporate News - livemint.com

So all cars manufactured during that time for Diesel are given that consideration. What were the issues noticed due to this fault ?

I hope nothing serious has happened for Maruti to look into this.
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Replacing the con rod bolt means dismantiling the whole engine and honestly speaking how many people would like to see the whole engine into pieces of their new cars.

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Usually only the sump needs to be removed to replace the connecting rod bolt.
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Very interesting that Maruti will recall Diesel Engine Swift, but the big question lies What about TATA and Fiat Engines.
Is it necessary that Tata and Fiat should also recall that too for the same component? IMHO, only the technology to build the engines is outsourced. The car makers afe free to source the supplies from wherever they want.
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How did Ritz become a part of this? Isn't it chasis type different from the rest 2?
The recall is based on Engines and all these cars uses same diesel engine
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I believe some of the bolts in a particular lot may have turned up bad, and the problem may have been detected through some first service operations. Backtracking the particular supply of bolts, they can know which engines those bolts were used in.

Once those engines make their way into the service stations, they will obv have to inspect each of those engines for inspection and replace the bolts where necessary. Though behind the scene I expect them to pretty much replace all 1,05,256 bolts in those 13,157 engines.

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True replacing the bolts will require opening up the sump only, but even that would require a lot of work, like draining the engine oil for starters. It is still an hour's job minimum.

Though I have to say as far as parts to fail go this is truly a biggie. If an actual failure has occured in some cars already, it must have been pretty bad for the engine block and crankshaft.

Tata-Fiat Multijets are manufactured at Fiats Ranjangaon plant, none of which are supplied to Maruti.

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Any idea of the real defect with Con Rod Bolts?
The K12 petrol engines in these cars have nutless connecting rods as a means of reducing the weight.
Did they forget to fix the nut and the locknuts in place for the Diesel engine's connecting rods as well. (LoL)
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There is a possibility that Fiat India and Maruti Suzuki sources engine parts like bolts, nuts, studs etc from the same vendor since the engine is the same. But chances are very less (depending upon batch volume) that the same batch of bolts would end up with Fiat India as well.

@julupani, yep it'll be an hours job, but its not a major job.
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True, there is a possibility that suppliers are shared, but I would imagine multiple and separate suppliers for a part as generic as a bolt. Also I would imagine even if the suppliers are shared, a single batch of bolts would head for one manufacturer and not be split up. Thus I think it would be unlikely that Tata-FIAT will face an issue.

The question for Maruti service is I don't think there will be a large number of technicians at a single station who would have been trained to do this particular job as engines rarely require any opening up. So at best there may be only one or two technicians who can do this job at a service station. This would mean that the inspection and replacement would take quite some time.

Unlike let's say if you recall to replace a faulty power window switch which almost anyone can do.
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Why is Maruti not changing the part directly? why to inspect and then decide whether it's defective or not (If found defective hope it doesn't mean a physical check for all the engines made during that period)?

They should already know which batch and brand has this issue and replace them directly as they should have this mapping part by part, or no?

Is it only part of the cars delivered affected?

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