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Old 23rd May 2014, 13:58   #1
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Default Maruti Autocross @ Bangalore - 7th & 8th June 2014

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Found this post in their FB Page:

Maruti Suzuki Motorsport



Itís time to rub some tyres and heat up the tracks! Itís time for Bangalore Autocross.
Dates: 7th and 8th June 2014
Venue: Supernova Ground, Yelahanka
For more details visit: http://bit.ly/BangloreAutoCross
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Hi do you have more details? e.g. can amateurs participate with stock cars? Are rally licences etc required?

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Hi do you have more details? e.g. can amateurs participate with stock cars? Are rally licences etc required?

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I registered in the website and today got a call from Ramesh. He has sent me a PDF with all the details and also an Entry form. Has anyone else finalized the plan for this - any more (confirmed) participants for the event?

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Motorsport Inc Maruti Autocross-SR 7-8 June 2014 FINAL.pdf

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Could anyone with experience in Auto Cross let us (newbies) know

1. How to prepare the vehicle?
2. How to drive?
3. Preferred car(s)
4. What NOT to do in the event?
5. Anything special to take care during the event?
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I registered in the website and today got a call from Ramesh. He has sent me a PDF with all the details and also an Entry form. Has anyone else finalized the plan for this - any more (confirmed) participants for the event?

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Yes I was sent the same form which I have filled and submitted, waiting to hear back
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Could anyone with experience in Auto Cross let us (newbies) know

1. How to prepare the vehicle?
2. How to drive?
3. Preferred car(s)
4. What NOT to do in the event?
5. Anything special to take care during the event?
I took part in the Autocross that was held in Mumbai in Nov 13.

1. Just check the tyres properly and fill proper air pressure. Make sure there are no major issues with the car as such. Remove all the unnecessary stuff from the boot, etc to reduce weight if you want to improve your timing. I had a CNG kit ! (Drove on petrol mode though)

2. How to drive? Well I really dont know how to answer that. When I took part in Autocross, we were given two rounds having two laps each. Before the rally you are supposed to walk on the track and understand the turns and all but when you drive on it for the first time dont be surprised if you get confused with the cone markings. I took a wrong turn in the beginning and had to reverse so lost 3-4 secs here. Round II was quite good. Dont do unnecessary wheelspins when you take off in the beginning.

3. Hatchback. There will be a couple of tight curves so you should be at ease driving a hatchback. There were people who took part in Corollas and even Safari Stormes but still I would prefer a hatchback.

4&5. Nothing much to say.
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Are spectators welcome to the event? The website did not have any details for spectators.
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I took part in the Autocross that was held in Mumbai in Nov 13.

1. Just check the tyres properly and fill proper air pressure.
Should this be a little on the higher side? For e.g. if the reco PSI is 32 should I go with 34?

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2. How to drive? Well I really dont know how to answer that. When I took part in Autocross, we were given two rounds having two laps each. Before the rally you are supposed to walk on the track and understand the turns and all but when you drive on it for the first time dont be surprised if you get confused with the cone markings. I took a wrong turn in the beginning and had to reverse so lost 3-4 secs here. Round II was quite good. Dont do unnecessary wheelspins when you take off in the beginning.

3. Hatchback. There will be a couple of tight curves so you should be at ease driving a hatchback. There were people who took part in Corollas and even Safari Stormes but still I would prefer a hatchback.
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So how does it work? Once you have driven the laps they compare timings and announce the winners? Any follow up event after this?

Finally, guess one has to wear a helmet right?!

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Came across few good reads:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=44932

ANDY'S TOP TEN AUTOX DRIVING TIPS

[Just got back from a weekend of teaching Evolution schools and thought I'd share some stuff that I must have said a thousand times.]

1) Position first, then speed. Positioning the car perfectly is more important than trying to attain the highest potential speed. For example, you will drop more time by correctly positioning the car nearer to slalom cones than you will by adding 1 or 2 MPH in speed. Same with sweepers (tight line). Same with 90-degree turns (use all of the track). Also, position is a prerequisite for speed. If you are not in the correct place, you will not be able go faster. Or at least not for very long!

2) Turn earlier...and less. To go faster, the arc you are running must be bigger. A bigger arc requires less steering. To make a bigger arc that is centered in the same place, the arc must start sooner (turn earlier).

3) Brake earlier...and less. Waiting until the last possible second approaching a turn and then dropping anchor at precisely the correct place so that the desired entry speed is reached exactly as you come to the turn-in point is quite difficult to execute consistently. Especially when you consider that you get no practice runs on the course, and the surface changes on every run, and you aren't likely to be in exactly the same position with the same approach speed on every run, etc. Better to start braking a little earlier to give some margin of error. And by braking less you can either add or subtract braking effort as you close in on the turn-in point. This will make you consistent and smooth.

4) Lift early instead of braking later. Continuing with the philosophy of #3, when you need to reduce speed only a moderate amount, try an early lift of the throttle instead of a later push of the brake. This is less upsetting to the car, is easier to do and thus more consistent, and allows for more precise placement entering the maneuver (remember #1 above).

5) Easier to add speed in a turn than to get rid of it. If you are under the limit, a slight push of the right foot will get you more speed with no additional side effects. On the other hand, if you are too fast and the tires have begun slipping, you can only reduce throttle and wait until the tires turn enough of that excess energy into smoke and heat. Don't use your tires as brakes!

6) Use your right foot to modulate car position in constant radius turns, not the steering wheel. In a steady state turn, once you have established the correct steering input to maintain that arc, lifting the throttle slightly will let the car tuck in closer to the inside cones. Conversely, slightly increasing the throttle will push the car out a bit farther to avoid inside cones. It is much easier to make small corrections in position with slight variations in the tires' slip angle (that's what you are doing with the throttle) than with the steering wheel.

7) Unwind the wheel, then add power. If the car is using all of the tire's tractive capacity to corner, there is none left for additional acceleration. At corner exit, as you unwind the wheel, you make some available. If you do not unwind the wheel, the tire will start to slide and the car will push out (see #6 above).

8) Attack the back. For slaloms (also applicable to most offsets), getting close to the cones is critical for quick times (see #1). To get close, we must move the car less, which means bigger arcs. Bigger arcs come from less steering and require earlier turning (see #2). Now for the fun part... When you go by a slalom cone and start turning the steering wheel back the other way, when does the car start to actually change direction? Answer: When the wheel crosses the center point (Not when you first start turning back!) How long does that take? If you are smooth, it takes .25 - .5 seconds. Now, how long is a typical person's reaction time? Answer: about .5 seconds. Finally, how long does it take to go between slalom cones? Answer: Typically on the order of 1 second. Given all of that, your brain must make the decision to begin turning the steering wheel back the other way just *before* you go by the previous cone!!

Since this is a mental issue, a good visualization technique to get used to this is to think about trying to run over the back side of each slalom cone with the inside rear tire of the car. To hit it with the rear tire (and not the front), the car must be arcing well before the cone and the arc must be shallow. Attack the back!

9) Hands follow the eyes, car follows the hands. 'Nuf said.

10) Scan ahead, don't stare. Keep the eyes moving. Looking ahead does not mean staring ahead. Your eyes must be constantly moving forward and back, and sometimes left and right. Glance forward, glance back. Your brain can only operate on the information you give it.

Bonus Tip: Don't forget the stuff in between the marked maneuvers! Too often we think of a course as series of discrete maneuvers. There is typically more to be gained or lost in the areas that are in between. Pay special attention to the places where there are no cones.

LOADS of INFO:

http://www.sccawiregrass.org/RaceInfo.html
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Should this be a little on the higher side? For e.g. if the reco PSI is 32 should I go with 34?



So how does it work? Once you have driven the laps they compare timings and announce the winners? Any follow up event after this?

Finally, guess one has to wear a helmet right?!

thanks
Its like this - Each participant is given to complete Round 1 first. Round 1 consists of two laps. Your timings are recorded. Once round 1 is complete, participants again have to queue up for Round 2 which also has 2 laps.

After both the rounds are completed, shortlisted participants are announced from each category (eg, 800-1000cc, 1200-1400cc, etc).

After this they hold a final round on the next day.

When you reach the venue, you might need to fill the registration forms again and you get a number depending on how early or late you reached. Participants have to queue up based on the number. So, if you want your turn to come quickly then make sure you reach early. I was number 002.

And yes, you need a helmet.

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Is it open only for Maruti Vehicles or can other cars also participate?

Registered anyways, lets see.

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...Finally, guess one has to wear a helmet right?!...
In the PDF, they have mentioned even an FIA approved dress.

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Is it open only for Maruti Vehicles or can other cars also participate?...
As far as I understand ANY brands can participate. It's ONLY that Maruti is the main sponsor for the event.
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Any confirmed team-bhpian participating in the event?
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Registered and got a call from them. Unfortunately there is no class for Diesel cars. However, if there are about 6 or more Diesel cars at the event, they will think of creating a new class. Practice Laps can be done anyways.

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Did the diesel class with no practice session.
All that I could manage was a walk-in recce 30 mts before my run.

Got placed as 4th from a group of 9 or 10 cars.
A practice run could have shaved a few seconds from my first lap but it was good fun at the end of the day!
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