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Old 5th October 2015, 21:52   #16
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Fantastic thread. Thanks Sudev this clarified a lot of doubts I had about the TSD format.

My one and only experience with this was during the http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ge-2012-a.html (A Report on the Mahindra Adventure: Monsoon Challenge 2012)

I had no idea when we set out just how much fun and excitement is possible in a "slow" race.
I was simply stunned when I saw the winner of that contest having almost 0 time difference.
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Events :

Before you say it is difficult to participate in events so far away let me share that events are happening all over.

Few of the biggest events that happen on TSD format are
Desert Storm - Delhi
Raid De Himalaya - Shimla
SJOBA Rally - Chandigarh
Taj Rally - Agra
Royal Rajasthan - Jaipur
Kaviguru Rally - Kolkata
Mahindra Adventure - Nashik
Dakshin Dare - Bangluru
Rally of Jeypore
Rally of Coimbatore
Green Run - Bangluru
Monsoon Run - Kolkata
Grand Krishna - Chikmanglur
Orange Adventure - Chikmanglur
Malwa TSD - Indore
Drive to Cause - Kolkata
Silver Spring - Kolkata
Spirit of Kalinga - Bhubaneswar
Indo Bhutan - Siliguri
Himalayan Drive - Guwahati

There is also a six to nine round national championship conducted by Federation of Motor Sports Clubs of India (FMSCI) every year.

There are many many more one day or half day events with concentration around Kolkata, Bangluru, Coaimbatur and. Chennai.

There are also special events for all women crew only or women drivers only. Lavasa rally is the most glamorous one with high profile celebrity attendance.

Thanks guys for your appreciative comments and inputs.
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Check points :

Along the route of the rally there are many checkpoints these are called time controls.

At each control the time of passage of competitor is recorded. Time controls are marked with standard symbols and are difficult to miss. Given below is a picture of time control in action.

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Each control is manned by marshals. They are usually people with prior rally experience or are trained. Training covers not only timing but also first aid, wireless communications etc. Mostly they are volunteers.

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Brilliant Thread Sudev! Rally driving is just as you said - for real men on real roads, and thats why it seems all the more alluring. The sad part - not much information for the average car enthusiast - now gets solved.

What do you think would be a good start for a newbie from Mumbai? Isnt Mahindra Adventure more about off-roading and need some experience with it (off roading)?
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Mahindra does both. For off road - 4w vehicle guys - they do Challenges and for two wheel vehicle owners Adventures and Drives.

That would be one place to start with. Though Goa, Pune also have events.
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Marshals :

Marshals are different breed of motoring enthusiasts. They are essential to running of any rally (for that matter all motor sports) and perform vital function of timing at controls plus ensuring tracking and safety of participants. Even in a TSD Rally.

Marshalling is tough but enjoyable. They are up and travelling before rally starts and go to sleep much later. Read a few blogs and threads written by marshals for more details :

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110506 (Desert Storm Travels (Travails?))

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97312 (Storm'11 - The Marshall's Life)

westernmotorsports.in/blog/life-of-pie-errrr-official/
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Winning strategy :

Given that you have to come up with least amount of penalties the only guaranteed way of winning TSD rally is to remain on time all through the course.

Many devices are available and are used by Navigator to do constant calculation of their present position the target time at this location and compare this with the actual time of arrival. The difference of the last two is then used by the crew to understand how fast or slow they should be going to keep to the ideal situation. This way they do not get surprised at a time control since they would be always running on time.

However to do correct calculation also need to know the correct odo or distance reading. As mentioned earlier also many devices are available but the dictum in a rally is that road book is always the Bible and cannot be wrong. So even if GPS device is being used by competitor they still need to keep noting be error in the GPS reading with the road book and keep correcting themselves for this differential distance.

This constant calculation takes its toll as the navigator also has to guide the driver onto the correct route thus a good teamwork between the two is very very essential to keep a good progress.
One of the easiest ways of correcting and noting the differential is to check the distance reading of your device where is the road book reading at a point on road book which cannot be varying. Say for instance a cross road in comparison to a curve on the road. Where can be no doubt about the cross road but exact point on curve can vary and you cannot have exact reading or location of the distance. In addition they could be other indicators that can give you a very very precise idea of distance reading say a milestone or building.

Of course practice and persistent approach is basic to make winners
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For people in Delhi NCR a new monthly TSD series of drives is being run see details here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...on-drives.html
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Another edition of Race Camp TSD Rally training program is scheduled for Sunday March 13, 2016. Those interested can sign up at RACE CAMP
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Another edition of Race Camp TSD Rally training program is scheduled for Sunday March 13, 2016. Those interested can sign up at RACE CAMP
Sudev,

Nice thread and well explained the concept of TSD. Simple explanations and all.

Just chanced up on this.

Best Regards & Drive Safe

Ram
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