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Old 16th November 2007, 19:52   #46
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Dear, Yes! it would definately encourage sales, only thing is Swift/SX4/Gypsy which are on the current production line..(say from 2 years now).

Maruti can hardly keep up with the quality standards in their cars and instead of upgrading they usually downgrade, cut corners and finally that product quality gets cheap. Take a look at the quality standards of the Swift, If Maruti was really keen on the Swift they would had got her a new engine which we find abroad, not just an engine with a throwaway technology, a decade old.
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hey people presume you all have heard of the new lancer soon coming

1.8lt 144 odd hp

torsion and chassis rigidity is up [forgotten figures] by over 50 % as compared to the Cedia ..which i always felt was loose
Might be great for rallying, but will flop badly in sales. The trick is to put old wine in new bottle, not put new wine in old bottle.
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I'm sure if more players came in *officially* (Skoda, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, even Tata), it would actually bring costs down for everybody involved. Simple economics: volume goes up, prices come down. So you know it would actually be kinda nice if say, Tata came in with like a works team, and Maruti was forced to homologate just because Tata starts hyping about how good their cars are on bad roads <daydreaming...>
I agree, but the point is, even if rallying was a popular sport. Pundarikakhshya and Ghatothkach, who sit beside me in office, will still go and buy an alto. Because they give two hoots about rally credibility. As long as we dont make Rally credentials as important as having an effect even on Matrimonial prospects we dont see that changing. As long as that aint happening the manufacturers aren't getting interested.

Regarding prototype testing in India, manufacturers themselves spy photograph their cars being tested in Africa.
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You're probably right 1100D, but maybe part of the reason why rallying doesn't have credibility is that there are a very few players (read Maruti) involved. MRF tyres, for example, are doing a pretty darn good job of tooting their own horn based on their rally accomplishments - now *that's* credibility. I mean, it's all about advertising, isn't it? If the majority of car manufacturers start using rallying as a means of proving their worth, it might just become one of the criteria for consideration for new buyers. Like how MRF (the APRC ad) and JK (the Naren ad) are doing right now. What do you guys think?

"In other news", it appears that the desi Swift has been homologated for rallying. This was evidently done by a privateer and the car was part-sponsored by MRF for the Raid de Himalaya. No news on the SX4, though.
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You're probably right 1100D, but maybe part of the reason why rallying doesn't have credibility is that there are a very few players (read Maruti) involved. MRF tyres, for example, are doing a pretty darn good job of tooting their own horn based on their rally accomplishments - now *that's* credibility. I mean, it's all about advertising, isn't it? If the majority of car manufacturers start using rallying as a means of proving their worth, it might just become one of the criteria for consideration for new buyers. Like how MRF (the APRC ad) and JK (the Naren ad) are doing right now. What do you guys think?

"In other news", it appears that the desi Swift has been homologated for rallying. This was evidently done by a privateer and the car was part-sponsored by MRF for the Raid de Himalaya. No news on the SX4, though.
Yeah Bro, the swift did complete the Raid, I live in Shimla (Now in Chandigarh) I saw the car myself standing at scruitny befor the rally, didn't get a chance to take a aloser look.
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hey people

caught it at 630 am suzuki made their WRC Debut with the SX4 !

looked like a hatch version though
& of course they had many technical issues

but crazy !

made a separate thread for it
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News for those looking at the swift for racing/rallying, it has been homolagted by FMSCI for both power to weight for road racing and Group N for rallying(N+ not to sure). The homolagation came through about a month ago.
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Awesome!
Now, how do we strip off 200 kgs?
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