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|5th January 2008, 14:11||#76|
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|10th January 2008, 15:46||#77|
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Looks like this Indica Indica is gonna make baleno drivers wet their seats everytime they're on track. I was at the Coimby track when this car was launched and i can tell you one thing, it's so much faster through the corners when compared to the balenos and the fords. Why think about Swifts when this Gp N Indica is way faster than regular 1400 esteems.
Oh and i heard that Car India magazine Editor guy telling someone that the car is perfect for the track, no handling issues whatsoever!!!
|13th January 2008, 02:49||#78|
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Furioussenna there's no catching the MRF Fiestas. Even though the Indica looked fast MRF says it can do a max of 1:20s whereas the Fiestas do 1:17s every lap.. Thats 3 seconds quicker every lap...
Balenos will handle better since they're not hatchbacks.. you would have seen Nawaz's Baleno.. She started last and finished 1st.. Does'nt that answer your question?
|13th January 2008, 09:24||#79|
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Both these statements are arbitrary and completely fail to make any sense whatsoever.
The first is completely inane.
The second does not remove the driver from the equation. Give Nawaz the Indica and then see if your statement holds true.
|14th January 2008, 16:19||#80|
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do they allow test drives? Is it available in bangalore?
What if someone already has Petrol indica, do they upgrade it to this specs?
|17th January 2008, 11:22||#81|
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Let me help you get your facts right.
1. J Anand said " the car can do 1:20s with ease".
2. The shape of a car is not the only criteria considered to determine its handling capabilities around a track. I don't want to give you engineering lectures on vehicle dynamics, don't force me to.
3.Navaz's drive from last on the grid to the top of the podium doesn't explain anything here, that's just superior driving.
|29th January 2008, 15:02||#82|
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The reliability is open to any car. but no modifications are allowed other than raising suspension to a specified level and adding a sump guard. We have a member (t-bhpian) who competed in a stock wagonR.
However, the X-Treme allows only rally prepared cars to compete, so you need roll cage etc.
|22nd September 2008, 16:12||#88|
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Due to Vista mania, and Nano circus, all the good things came to an end.
Shareholders won the battle against enthusiasts I guess!
Tata already has a 100bhp engine in house.(1.4L 16V) which does duty in petrol XL.
Plonk that in indica, stiffen the suspension, and you have a hot hatch.
With independent suspension all around, making the indica a handlers dream is not really difficult, just stiffning and wider tires will do.
Tata can fill the void left in the hot hatch segment.
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|22nd September 2008, 17:08||#89|
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Found this on Google
Don't be misled into complacence by the Silhouette's smiling grille - this is the kind of dog that barks loudly and mauls harder
BAD TO THE BONE Don't miss the flared wheel arches, the aero bits, massive rubber and dual-twin tailpipes... yes, it gets meaner inside!
If one were to associate cars with David and Goliath, the latter would probably translate into something like the `move over mousy, I'm coming through' Pagani Zonda or the unpronounceable Koenigsegg - rear-wheel driven and with the unsubtle, ham-handed wallop of a massive, aft-positioned engine. David, on the other hand, would probably come loaded with the humble virtues of a family econobox - munching on meagre leaves for lunch and generally pottering about town with a `that nice shepherd boy from next door' disposition throughout his lifetime.
David won the first battle easily enough - with a crude sling, a stone and a bit of foolhardy luck, but he's itching for Round II and is definitely prepared today. And he's been working on it quietly, ignoring the old-fashioned Bullworker, which provides beefy arms and a big chest, but leaves the package standing on a pair of spindly, knock-kneed legs. A stint with the automotive equivalent of VLCC - J Anand's Jayem Auto in Coimbatore has instead added meaningful muscle where it never was - and that means practically everywhere.
This here, ladies and gentlemen, is the Indica Silhouette, our David in the fight for brawny supremacy. Some of you who visited the Auto Expo in Delhi earlier this year would have probably seen it at the Tata stall, but for the rest of you, let me tell you, this is the kind of package that could easily upstage my personal favourite dream machine - that little big supercar, the fearsome Renault Clio V6 hatch.
Though it looks in many ways like the ubiquitous Indica, this is not the kind of object you would want claiming temporary tenancy of your rear view mirrors, no matter how temporary - it is a car whose keys you'd itch to be thrown to you. Don't be misled into complacence by the Silhouette's smiley grille - this is the kind of dog that barks loudly and mauls harder. Massive, flared wheel arches accommodate extra-wide rubber and add beefy girth to the visual package. A chin spoiler, replete with winglets, an underbody, matte-black diffuser and a tray roof-spoiler behind regulate airflow over and below the car. Needless to say, the floorpan and flanks of the car have been extensively reworked too, though visually at least; the four-door configuration of the original family hatch has been retained.
There's more... The rear seats don't open to that familiar sofa-like seat - what you jaw drops to is a massive, all-alloy racing engine, and all 3500cc of it, with over 320 bhp on tap. This lump, along with its mountings, acts as a stressed member to the chassis and provides added torsional stiffness to cope with gut-wrenching extra power and the hardcore driving style that is duly expected of one behind the wheel. The engine is no slouch either - its antecedents are impressive indeed - it was originally developed by Renault in collaboration with Nismo (remember the Nissan Skyline GT-R?), adapted for competition and features a semi-dry sump. Translating its magic into rear wheel motive force is a six-speed sequential gearbox with steering mounted paddle-shifters - the electronics that make this work comes from Coimbatore and not from abroad, as does the beautifully crafted, chrome moly spaceframe that spider-webs the car's interiors.
What's left of the space behind won't accommodate a couple of suitcases either - in the boot are horizontally-laid dampers and pushrod-activated double wishbones made of lightweight aluminium - a sight that will look pretty much at home in an F1 car. Additionally, a limited slip diff and six-piston calliper Brembo discs complete the package, along with a funky, `Back to the Future' digital instrument cluster on the dash, Sparco seats and racing pedals.
The Silhouette actually has an interesting background. J Anand, in collaboration with French race car manufacturer, Solution F, actually builds a similar car with a strap-on fibreglass body of the Renault Megane for the French Supertourismé series. Among other cars that take part in this series, are the new Opel Astra and the Fiat Punto - all these cars are mechanical and structural photocopies under the skin. And since Tata might compete in the series to bolster the image of the Indica in Europe, senior vice president, Rajiv Dube was interested in what Jayem had to offer - the 850 kg Indica Silhouette. And yes, in case I forgot to mention it, this machine reportedly can turn out better laps than the Porsche GT3 on some of the race tracks in Europe - move over, Goliath! Needless to say, we're interested too - how about we take the Silhouette on a track-day outing, Tata, pretty please?
TECHNICAL DATA INDICA SILHOUETTE
How much? ---Not on sale
How big? --Kerb weight: 850 kg
Engine Layout: 3498cc V6, petrol
Max power: 320+ bhp
Installation: Rear mounted, rear wheel drive
Top speed: 220 kph+ (estimated)
Fuel economy: Does it really matter?
Front: 6 calliper vented disc
Rear: 4 calliper vented disc
Delicious is'nt it.
Last edited by PAVAN KADAM : 22nd September 2008 at 17:10.
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