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Old 28th July 2004, 15:55   #1
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hey guyz,
do u think the upcoming new honda city VTEC with 110 bhp will be used for the INRC rally in the future?
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They might use it, but it'll never win against the Baleno. Power isn't everything.

The new Vtec better be equiped with revised suspenssion and steering.

I don't understand why Honda thought of a Vtec engine for this car in the first place. now why would somone buy a "NHC Vtec" which is slower than the old Vtec and nowhere close to the "NHC Idsi" in terms of FE. You'll be losing out on both fronts.

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I dont think that the NHC will really make it to the Rally front. Its not a great handler, nor does the heavy weight make the engines life any easier.

Its a great practical vehicle...but not a rally star

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Old 29th July 2004, 14:23   #4
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i thought the weight was shifted around in the new car for better handling....for example the shift of the fuel tank
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Quote[/b] ]i thought the weight was shifted around in the new car for better handling....for example the shift of the fuel tank
But you gotta understand that the NHC is taller and heavier than the old one. Plus the EPS is nowhere as precise and confidence inspiring as in the old Hydraulic systems.

It's surely not a car you can throw around and live to tell about it. *

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i thought the weight was shifted around in the new car for better handling....for example the shift of the fuel tank
Probably. But the main reason was to liberate more interior and trunk space.

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does this mean that even if the nhc vtec is introduced, it wouldn't live up to the level of the old vtec in terms of handling?
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yes nitrous ...kinda think so
nhc cannot be thrown around like the old vtec
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never driven the new city so cant comment on the handling but looking at the short overhang - front and back - i feel that the handling would not be compromised a lot. true it does weigh a little bit more and it is also a lot more higher, but i think it should not be too bad.
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Quote[/b] (GTO @ July 28 2004,14:43)]Its not a great handler, nor does the heavy weight make the engines life any easier.
what exactly is the weight difference between the new and the old models

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well, as the rallying scene stands right now, there really is no scope for the NHC. the only team who can afford to rally it are MRF and they have already tied up with MAruti and the Baleno.

You must remember, even when they were rallying the Old Honda Vtec, Honda did not lend them any support whatsoever. The only reason MRF continued with the Honda's was that they were so cheap and reliable to rally that it worked out cheaper than even their Esteems!!

Now with factory support from Maruti, its hard to see why they would chose any other car.

As far as the privateer scene goes, it just doesn't make sense to rally a NHC when there are no real gains in power to be had over the old one. Plus, the old one now has proven itself and parts are cheaper too.

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