International Engine of the Year Awards 2006 - Team-BHP

amit · 16th May 2006, 22:37

BMW's 5.0L V10 powering the M5 and M6 held onto the international engine of the year award for the second year running. The engines are judged by renowned motoring journalists from USA, Japan, China, Russia, New Zealand, India, Korea, Germany, France, South Africa, and the UK. VW's 1.4L Twincharger won the best new engine and best engine in 1 to 1.4L category beating last year's winner, Fiat's 1.3 Multi-jet diesel.

International Engine of the Year Awards.

nitrous · 16th May 2006, 22:55

This is the 3rd year i'm watching these awards.
And there has never been american engines winning.
Every year, its either german or Japanese.
One of the years, Honda won around 7 of the 12 engine awards.
That must give an idea about what Honda engineering is about.
Prius has always been present in the prize list.

Btw, What is this 'twincharger' thingy? TT??

jkdas · 16th May 2006, 23:13

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Btw, What is this 'twincharger' thingy? TT??

Volkswagen TSI engine found in Europe in the Golf GT won the "Best New Engine of 2006" award. The TSI engine combines a supercharger with a turbocharger. The engine, with a displacement of 1.4 liter, produces 170 bhp and uses 7.2l/100 km

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/05...ngine-of-2006/

Fiero · 16th May 2006, 23:40

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Originally Posted by jkdas

The TSI engine combines a supercharger with a turbocharger. The engine, with a displacement of 1.4 liter, produces 170 bhp and uses 7.2l/100 km

now THAT is a darn good engine !!!!!!

amit · 17th May 2006, 01:51

For prospective Skoda Laura RS customers, the 2.0 Turbo FSI won the 1.8 to 2.0L category, so expect the Laura RS to be a cracker Jack of a car.

Honda's 1.8L I-VTEC that powers the new Civic came in at No. 6 in the best new engine category and was the runner up in the 1.5 to 2.0L category beaten by Toyota's 1.5L Hybrid Prius engine. Chevy's 7.0L V8 that powers the Corvette Z06 came in at No.3 in the Best new engine category. That was the only American presence this year. BMW had a great year with a number of it's engines winning in their respective category. Overall BMW took 4 awards. Damn good I say.

The Wolf · 17th May 2006, 02:12

The judge for this event from India was Hormazd Sorabjee...we all know who he is!!!

nitrous · 17th May 2006, 03:24

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The engine, with a displacement of 1.4 liter, produces 170 bhp and uses 7.2l/100 km

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The TSI engine combines a supercharger with a turbocharger.

Wow. But, why does it sound like 'Mrktgheadferrari'????

islero · 17th May 2006, 09:41

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Originally Posted by nitrous

This is the 3rd year i'm watching these awards.
And there has never been american engines winning.

Americans may not make award winning engines, but their comparitively simple designs are so versatile that they are put to use in various cars.

Take the modular Ford V8 for example. Mustang, MG SV, Koenigsegg, the record-setting MG ZS Salt flats special and various kit cars.

This is only the present unit. Over the 80+ year life of the Ford V8, it has been used in various marques and even some non-car applications.

The Chevy V8 is also a versatile engine. It powers the Corvette, the Australian Holdens, the latest Marcos TSO, and some other small-time application which I forget.

1Day · 17th May 2006, 11:17

I think its bogus that the M5/M6 engine got the award when, its bigger heavier and less efficent than the Corvette Z06 7l V8 small block, i think like most rags the bias can easily be seen here..

sujaylahiri · 17th May 2006, 15:06

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Originally Posted by 1Day

I think its bogus that the M5/M6 engine got the award when, its bigger heavier and less efficent than the Corvette Z06 7l V8 small block, i think like most rags the bias can easily be seen here..

True
The LS7 is surely an award winning engine. Look at the Dodge Viper; 8.3 L 505 Hp V10.
LS7 gives out 505 HP from a 7L V8 engine. According to Car and Driver most of this can be attributed to the powertrain loss on the Viper.
But I still can't understand why Chevy uses pushrod technology on so many of its engines including the LS7 whereas all the other manufacturers have switched to overhead cams long time back.

islero · 17th May 2006, 19:55

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Originally Posted by 1Day

I think its bogus that the M5/M6 engine got the award when, its bigger heavier and less efficent than the Corvette Z06 7l V8 small block, i think like most rags the bias can easily be seen here..

I have to disagree, 1Day.

The BMW V10, a 5.0 litre NA, produces 507 bhp.

The Chevy V8 is 2 litres larger and yet only produces 8 bhp more. The BMW is more efficient.

And sujay, the Viper V10 has one of the lowest specific outputs ever in a supercar.
60 bhp/litre is nothing to write home about in an executive car, let alone a supercar.

R32_GTR · 17th May 2006, 20:09

The new diesel powered R8 for le Mans has my vote...and if we were to vote at all...i would vote for nissans RB26 year after year!! but that just my facination with this motor...it has no boundries!!!

1Day · 17th May 2006, 21:43

Islero, hp/lt is not the way efficiency of an engine is measured, the LS7 is lighter, smaller and its simple and gives you much better gas mileage, trust me, put it in 6th and i have gotten upto accord V4 level mpg @ 80mph...

anyhow the hp/lt argument is the most convoluted argument of all time, the liters in an engine doesnt define size, i could make a 1lt engine which would be bigger and heavier than a V10 6l engine, would you call it a good design, i dont think so..and btw the V8 is under rated and detuned by GM to 505hp because of CAFE(no gas guzzler tax) if tuned without adding any mods, it produces more than the Ford GT engine.

The size of the engine and its design makes a big difference and hence i dont see M5/M6 engines being on top of its game..

islero · 17th May 2006, 22:27

Hmmm....since you have mentioned that, I think the judges inclination to be biased towards Bavaria's finest comes from the pushrod technology and the vette's lack of cool-sounding acronyms.

kb100 · 17th May 2006, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Volkswagen TSI engine found in Europe in the Golf GT won the "Best New Engine of 2006" award. The TSI engine combines a supercharger with a turbocharger. The engine, with a displacement of 1.4 liter, produces 170 bhp and uses 7.2l/100 km

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/05...ngine-of-2006/

HOLY CRAP.... HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF ENGINES!!

I wan ... I wan... I waaaanT!!!! ... Anyone bringing that engine in I WANT ONE TOO!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Wow. But, why does it sound like 'Mrktgheadferrari'????

ROTFLMAO...

But Where is that guy???? ...

16th May 2006, 22:37	#1 (permalink)
amit Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,149	International Engine of the Year Awards 2006 BMW's 5.0L V10 powering the M5 and M6 held onto the international engine of the year award for the second year running. The engines are judged by renowned motoring journalists from USA, Japan, China, Russia, New Zealand, India, Korea, Germany, France, South Africa, and the UK. VW's 1.4L Twincharger won the best new engine and best engine in 1 to 1.4L category beating last year's winner, Fiat's 1.3 Multi-jet diesel. International Engine of the Year Awards. __________________ Some people drive cars. I drive the Palio.

16th May 2006, 22:55	#2 (permalink)
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 4,194 View My Garage	This is the 3rd year i'm watching these awards. And there has never been american engines winning. Every year, its either german or Japanese. One of the years, Honda won around 7 of the 12 engine awards. That must give an idea about what Honda engineering is about. Prius has always been present in the prize list. Btw, What is this 'twincharger' thingy? TT?? __________________ hindu.com/mp/2008/08/25/stories/2008082522220200.htm Last edited by nitrous : 16th May 2006 at 23:06.

17th May 2006, 01:51	#5 (permalink)
amit Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,149	For prospective Skoda Laura RS customers, the 2.0 Turbo FSI won the 1.8 to 2.0L category, so expect the Laura RS to be a cracker Jack of a car. Honda's 1.8L I-VTEC that powers the new Civic came in at No. 6 in the best new engine category and was the runner up in the 1.5 to 2.0L category beaten by Toyota's 1.5L Hybrid Prius engine. Chevy's 7.0L V8 that powers the Corvette Z06 came in at No.3 in the Best new engine category. That was the only American presence this year. BMW had a great year with a number of it's engines winning in their respective category. Overall BMW took 4 awards. Damn good I say. __________________ Some people drive cars. I drive the Palio.

17th May 2006, 02:12	#6 (permalink)
The Wolf BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 657 View My Garage	The judge for this event from India was Hormazd Sorabjee...we all know who he is!!! __________________ *I cried coz I had no turbo, till I met a man who had no VTEC!!!*

17th May 2006, 11:17	#9 (permalink)
1Day Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago/Delhi Posts: 1,236 View My Garage	I think its bogus that the M5/M6 engine got the award when, its bigger heavier and less efficent than the Corvette Z06 7l V8 small block, i think like most rags the bias can easily be seen here.. __________________ 400hp of awesome fun!! The Almighty Corvette KILR RYD = Vette Ordered Red/Grey Premium GT-R (Hopefully Aug delivery)

17th May 2006, 20:09	#12 (permalink)
R32_GTR BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SYDNEY / BOMBAY Posts: 287 View My Garage	The new diesel powered R8 for le Mans has my vote...and if we were to vote at all...i would vote for nissans RB26 year after year!! but that just my facination with this motor...it has no boundries!!! __________________ PLAY, OR GET PLAYED..

17th May 2006, 21:43	#13 (permalink)
1Day Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago/Delhi Posts: 1,236 View My Garage	Islero, hp/lt is not the way efficiency of an engine is measured, the LS7 is lighter, smaller and its simple and gives you much better gas mileage, trust me, put it in 6th and i have gotten upto accord V4 level mpg @ 80mph... anyhow the hp/lt argument is the most convoluted argument of all time, the liters in an engine doesnt define size, i could make a 1lt engine which would be bigger and heavier than a V10 6l engine, would you call it a good design, i dont think so..and btw the V8 is under rated and detuned by GM to 505hp because of CAFE(no gas guzzler tax) if tuned without adding any mods, it produces more than the Ford GT engine. The size of the engine and its design makes a big difference and hence i dont see M5/M6 engines being on top of its game.. __________________ 400hp of awesome fun!! The Almighty Corvette KILR RYD = Vette Ordered Red/Grey Premium GT-R (Hopefully Aug delivery) Last edited by 1Day : 17th May 2006 at 21:46.

17th May 2006, 22:27	#14 (permalink)
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,549 View My Garage	Hmmm....since you have mentioned that, I think the judges inclination to be biased towards Bavaria's finest comes from the pushrod technology and the vette's lack of cool-sounding acronyms. __________________ A piece of graffiti- ' Owing to lack of interest, tomorrow has been cancelled'

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