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Old 24th October 2013, 15:09   #1
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Toyota has given a confirmation for the GT 86 platform saloon

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Will have 100 mm more wheelbase than the coupe. <br /> <br />
It could receive what Toyota calls the “keen-look” grille design that appears to replicate the shape of a Japanese Samurai sword.<br /> <br />
Engine will be the 2.0-liter 4-cyl engine a carryover from the coupe and produce 200 bhp to power the rear wheels. <br /> <br />
There could also be a Hybrid R variant that produces 250-270 bhp and will be 10-15 % more fuel efficient than the standard model. <br /> <br />
Also reports suggests that the new system will employ <b> F1-style KERS</b> tech, which can recover the car’s kinetic energy under braking and deliver it back to the rear wheels in short bursts <img src=

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Will have 100 mm more wheelbase than the coupe.
Interesting! When I saw the thread title I was thinking what’s the point in having additional doors for those rear seats which are more suited for kids. 100mm addition to the wheelbase should address that

The GT86 has all the makings of a legend, and I hope too many spin-offs don’t dilute that.
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Interesting news this - as I just read 2 days back that this is still very much up in the air - Toyota has no sporty compact - but Subaru has a thing or two to say about this as this is a direct competition to its Impreza WRX and WRX STI in being high performance compacts and the decision was pending because of resistance from Subaru. Nevertheless this would be a fun car - I'm just not sure how much sales volume it would generate at its size and price point.
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Interesting! When I saw the thread title I was thinking what’s the point in having additional doors for those rear seats which are more suited for kids. 100mm addition to the wheelbase should address that

The GT86 has all the makings of a legend, and I hope too many spin-offs don’t dilute that.
GT 86 is a legend no doubt and hence the nomenclature from the legendary AE 86 is well deserved

And yes the added 100 mm wheelbase would surely be welcome in the sedan as far as space is concerned, also will add extra stability at higher speeds over the coupe version, may lose a bit of the handling credentials though.

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Interesting news this - as I just read 2 days back that this is still very much up in the air - Toyota has no sporty compact - but Subaru has a thing or two to say about this as this is a direct competition to its Impreza WRX and WRX STI in being high performance compacts and the decision was pending because of resistance from Subaru. Nevertheless this would be a fun car - I'm just not sure how much sales volume it would generate at its size and price point.
Quite possible, but now as finally the project is green lighted it surely will benefit 'TOYOBARU'

At another article regarding the GT 86 sedan they have said they are targeting the buyers in their 40's who would want a affordable sports car with added practicality
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If this comes in, I will shelve the plans to procure an entry level rear-wheel-driven German sedan. Bring it on Toyota. But more than that, I guess Honda is also upto something with its compact rear drive platform.
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Oh, I'm just waiting for the station wagon. That would be lip-smacking!
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If this comes in, I will shelve the plans to procure an entry level rear-wheel-driven German sedan. Bring it on Toyota. But more than that, I guess Honda is also upto something with its compact rear drive platform.
Guys, unless they increase the engine displacement/bhp i dont see this doing well. I own the coupe (BRZ), that itself seems powerless in many situations. Adding KERS style hybrid will add on to the cost that will make it enter the 3-series and infiniti territory in the US market atleast. Not sure if this will see the light of day, but hopefully they keep the cost low and add power to this platform.
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I own the coupe (BRZ), that itself seems powerless in many situations.
BRZ automatic or Manual? This whole platform was made for Drift-lovers (justifying the Narrow tyres) in memory of the cult following the AE-86 cars have in the far east markets and as far as what the reports suggest, it has enough to break traction at the rear. But you would probably be the one with first hand information on it.
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I like the way they have managed to add the extra doors as well as extra length without too much difference in the overall profile.
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BRZ automatic or Manual? This whole platform was made for Drift-lovers (justifying the Narrow tyres) in memory of the cult following the AE-86 cars have in the far east markets and as far as what the reports suggest, it has enough to break traction at the rear. But you would probably be the one with first hand information on it.
I have an automatic. My friend has a manual fr-s(gt86 launched under scion). You feel the difference when you drive it in the automatic mode. Switch it on to manual mode, use the paddle shifters, and its super fun. Both the cases, the engine makes you work for performance and that is what owning a sports car is all about. The idea behind these cars is to put the driver in the control of the vehicle and not the electronics. Its blazing fun to drive this and the car is so better provided you keep it in the rev band.

Its easy to break traction in this car and it just leaves a massive grin on your face. The chassis in its present form can handle more power. You can feel the suggestion is there.

Toyota can mess up this platform big time by creating a dull sedan that wears the legendary 86 badge. That is what worries me. The driving dynamics change a lot when you lengthen the chassis.

In its present form, this is one car that is a lot of fun. Yes, there are better cars, but at this price point and target audience there are very little cars that match. So fingers crossed that toyota wont mess this up. Else there is always the impreza wrx sti
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Else there is always the impreza wrx sti
The Impreza WRX Sti, being all wheel drive, could be very fast, but somehow, just like the Quattro based cars (against the M3/5), not very involving to drive. Infact I used to love my friends Nissan 240sx (Silvia) for its tail-out nature, despite not being as over the top as a 300ZX.

Coming back to the 4-door GT-86, it appeals to the practical side of me, given my present family setup, I might not be able to buy a GT-86 coupe. Assuming that Toyota will finally launch it in India as well.

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The Impreza WRX Sti, being all wheel drive, could be very fast, but somehow, just like the Quattro based cars (against the M3/5), not very involving to drive. Infact I used to love my friends Nissan 240sx (Silvia) for its tail-out nature, despite not being as over the top as a 300ZX.

Coming back to the 4-door GT-86, it appeals to the practical side of me, given my present family setup, I might not be able to buy a GT-86 coupe. Assuming that Toyota will finally launch it in India as well.
I do agree on the practicality part. But they need to put an tiny amount of power.Like just 40 bhp.the car is very tail happy but it does that when you fling it into a corner and not because of power.

Anyway let me not go off topic. The key point will be price and weight. If they increase one or both, I don't know how the market will react to this.
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This is completely at odds with the original philosophy of small, light & compact !!

I feel they should've kept it as a 2 door and put in 2+2 seating. That's good enough !

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Its completely at odds with the philosophy of small and light !! I feel they should've kept it as a 2 door and put in 2+2 seating. That's good enough !
True! 2+2 seating is already there. I would like to see it remain undiluted, unless they just use the platform and give the new iteration a different name and appeal.
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It could receive what Toyota calls the “keen-look” grille design that appears to replicate the shape of a Japanese Samurai sword.
Check out this render of the 4 door GT 86 with Toyota's "Keen-Look" grille design incorporated;

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