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Old 14th November 2014, 09:47   #1
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Petrol: Worldwide, petrol engines are the most popular. China leads the field: there, nearly 100 percent of all new car purchasers choose a petrol. In the U.S.A. and Japan, the figure is roughly 75 percent. Engines with port-fuel injection still feature in more than every second petrol vehicle. Downsizing & turbocharging is becoming ever more popular.

Diesel: In India & the EU, every second new car is a diesel. But outside these core markets as well, diesel is gaining traction. The United States, for example, is a growth market. Bosch estimates that diesel's market share there will rise from 3 percent today to as much as 10 percent in 2018. In South Korea too, diesel is gaining. For many Europeans, its benefits are already clear: a modern diesel consumes as much as 25 percent less fuel than a comparable petrol engine, and delivers as much as 40 percent more torque.

Hybrid and electric vehicles: In Japan, nearly every fifth new car now features a hybrid powertrain. This makes the country the undisputed pioneer of electrification. In just a few years, registrations of hybrids will be significantly higher outside Japan as well. Bosch forecasts that of a predicted 113 million total vehicles sold worldwide in 2020, 6.5 million will be strong hybrids, 3 million will be plug-in hybrids, and 2.5 million will be all-electric (assuming a total of 113 million vehicles sold in 2020).

Flex fuel: Powertrains that can drive on both gasoline and alcohol (ethanol) are prominent in Brazil. The second largest market for this technology is the United States.

CNG: For ten years now, sales have been growing worldwide by 25 percent. In South Korea, CNG-powered vehicles have already captured an 11 percent share of the market.
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Despite cars like the Tesla S, the number of electric cars is under 1%, shows that there's a really long way to go for electric.

Wonder what other / undefined fuels are (1% in India)
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Tesla contributes to a very low number when compared to Prius or Vold or Nissan leaf. The electric cars primarily targeted at local commuters with affordable electrics less than 125mi range you cannot expect a huge market share yet.
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Despite cars like the Tesla S, the number of electric cars is under 1%, shows that there's a really long way to go for electric.

Wonder what other / undefined fuels are (1% in India)
Electric cars need quicker charging time even if their range is limited 100-150 miles.
I wouldn't mind stopping for 15-20 minutes to charge my car completely after every 100-150 miles.

Talking about other/undefined fuels:
Might be LPG? Or does it come under Petroleum too?
Undefined can also mean running on Hydrogen? South Korea has 4% of it.
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Wondering what is undefined fuel?
Under which category does LPG fit in?
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GTO thanks for the thread!
I was hesitant to post this, being a newbie.....but I could not stop because I am a Team BHP member.

With due respect, Can I request you to consider the renaming the thread title?
something like "Fuels used by cars: World map", "World map of fuels used by cars/automobiles"

Mods, Please delete my post if not appropriate or does not add any value.
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Tesla is an awesome car. Most of the CEO's are driving it presently, which adds to the executive cool factor. However, its100% electric. The BMW i8, Acura RLX have gas powered motors along with electric. Looks like people are more willing to make the switch to Hybrid cars -with performance guaranteed- before transforming to 100% electric. The challenge the industry is facing currently is about the infrastructure to build the charging stations for electric cars or to swap the batteries at gas (charging) stations, since the batteries are becoming less expensive and in the near future can be affordable by the common man. I have also read an article online which says, the car will become a 'service' in the future -just like the cell phone service. Car will be yours, they provide the service (battery pack).

The other challenge is the absence of the 'feel' of the real engine in a battery powered car. Driving enthusiasts are finding it difficult to make the ever important connection with car. It can also pose a safety issue for the near future. My neighbor has a Kia optima hybrid, sometimes it's difficult to realize that she just parked beside me as there would be absolutely no noise when the gasoline engine cuts off.
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Electric cars need quicker charging time even if their range is limited 100-150 miles.
I wouldn't mind stopping for 15-20 minutes to charge my car completely after every 100-150 miles.

Talking about other/undefined fuels:
Might be LPG? Or does it come under Petroleum too?
Undefined can also mean running on Hydrogen? South Korea has 4% of it.

There has been advancements in the infrastructure for electric vehicle charging as well. We have Level 2 and Level 3 chargers for faster charging.

For e.g. - A typical electric car like the Nissan Leaf , can take 15 hours to charge the battery from empty to its EPA-rated 75-mile range from that standard household source. However, a more advanced Level 2 charging station can take the Leaf from 0 miles to full range in 4 hours if the car is equipped with the optional 6.6 kilowatt on board charger and a DC fast charger, sometimes called Level 3, takes the Leaf from 0 to 80 percent of its charge in about 30 minutes.

You can find more details here - http://www.cnet.com/news/slow-fast-a...electric-cars/
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If the map showed Middle East countries like UAE, it would have been similar to China where all the passenger sector automobiles are running on gasoline and commercial vehicles like trucks and buses on diesel. Gasoline is so damn cheap there. I could find bottled drinking water more expensive/litre than gasoline in some outlets!
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Default Re: World map of Engines: How Asia, Europe & America drive

It is Petrol which still dominates the world chart.

Surprisingly, China has an almost perfect Petrol car share.
However, with the divide between Diesel and Petrol diminishing, we may soon have a pretty different ratio in India in the coming years.
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Wondering what is undefined fuel?
Under which category does LPG fit in?
It could be LPG or Kerosene that our very own Autowalla uses.

In China it is 100% of Petrol. Wonder what Chinese used to feel when he is out of Country and got Diesel car to drive. It seems in India more Diesel came after the prices of Petrol soaring up in last 2 - 4 years. It would be wonderful to see & compare the map of 5 years old with present map.
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Despite cars like the Tesla S, the number of electric cars is under 1%, shows that there's a really long way to go for electric.
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Tesla contributes to a very low number when compared to Prius or Vold or Nissan leaf.
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Electric cars need quicker charging time even if their range is limited 100-150 miles.
The Tesla is a $100,000 sedan. It would never do high volume.

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Wondering what is undefined fuel?
Under which category does LPG fit in?
Kerosene?

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GTO thanks for the thread!
Please use the 'report this post to a Moderator' functionality for such requests. Thanks (though I think the current title is fine too).
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The IC engine technology (from any fuel source) is expected to last for another 40-50 years, until we fully or to a great extend, transform to another reliable and sustainable fuel source. I don't think flex fuels or bio fuels are sustainable.
I think that if Electric vehicles are the future, Tesla is highly capable and has the potential to do moderately high volumes in the performance and luxury categories (the jaw dropping torque and all the high tech stuff in the interior can even beat most of the German/Japanese IC engine counterparts), unless something like the fire accident plagues it bad enough. Its inspiring, the conviction with which Elon Musk says "This is the future".

And he is one real rocket scientist. Despite of its huge price tag, Tesla has sold around 13k units till October in 2014 and the Nissan Leaf sits at the top of the EV charts, with 24.5k units. Model S costs almost four times a Leaf. Tesla is continuously improving the infrastructure, building super charging stations across the map. And the "battery swap" technology seems to be more time efficient than stopping at a gas station to fill the gas tank.
All that being said, one big question would be 'where does the energy for the electricity come from?' In 2011, figures from US Energy Administration say that only 9.1% of total electricity come from renewable sources. If you add the nuclear power (8.3%), it totals to 17.4%. So the big chunk of electricity, 82.5% comes from petroleum, natural gas and coal. And there is a lot of conversion losses, chemical to mechanical and mechanical to electrical in the power plant, and then electrical to mechanical on the vehicles, which means overall efficiency can go further down, perhaps even lower than an IC engine. The plus here is we do not directly pollute the roads or living area. Tesla superchargers is said to work on solar panels as of now, but solar panels alone cannot power a large number of vehicles, especially when the volumes keep on increasing.
There is another technology which is on the rise commercially, Hydrogen fuel cells. This has been here for a while, but didn't grab much attention since IC engines were way too convenient. There are limited production models, like the Honda FCX clarity, but these are not a huge success due to lack of infrastructure and proven track record. Separating out hydrogen is difficult, it needs some other energy source, handling and storing hydrogen is difficult, there are very few hydrogen fuel stations now. Good thing is that the output of fuel cells is electricity, so the same power-train architecture that works on electric vehicles, including the regenerative braking can be used in these vehicles. These can also work in hybrid architecture, can work as a plug-in substitute in a car for other sources like an IC engine or a battery (of course there will be a lot of technicalities, its not easy as it sounds). And the emission of FCVs would be just water or steam. All the big shots, Beemer, Merc, Audi, Mazda, Hyundai and Nissan are trying to bring out their own Fuel cell vehicles, most of them likely to be quietly rolled out into the streets, without much hype, like an initial trial . There is a Toyota is coming up (or has already come up very recently, I'm not quite sure) with a new one, the Toyota FCV, claiming that "We are the turning point".
http://www.toyota.com/fuelcell/
Lets hope this becomes a new age Prius, having the potential to be a real turning point in the history.
Anyway a lot of research has to go into all these.
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The Tesla is a $100,000 sedan. It would never do high volume.
Excatly my point. We still have a long way to go where $35,000 electric can start giving 250 mile range.
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Superb statistics.
Glad to read this and learn!
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