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Old 16th February 2007, 21:31   #16
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I'd hate to say this but they'll come back mauled.
Everybody said the same when Hyundai entered with their Excel in mid-1980s.
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Old 16th February 2007, 21:47   #17
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Everybody said the same when Hyundai entered with their Excel in mid-1980s.
Yes. Also:

1. Pics of the early Hyundais catching fire in their engines while motoring created a generation of Hyundai haters, disbelievers and booers. Also their sons/daughters. Its only now - after almost 3 decades after entry, maturing of Hyundai cars and the oil price hike that Hyundais have started somewhat to gain acceptance - that too in the compact car segment only. Mahindra dont have this much of cash to dig in for a decade or two before some small results trickle in

2. Hyundai always had a car focus in its international thrust. Indian style UVs wont sell in the materialistic markets of North America. And the Mahindra-Renault Logan is an absolute misfit in that market.

Unless Mahindra have something that we're not aware of, I'll stick to my original thought.

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Old 16th February 2007, 22:03   #18
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Ok, I see lots of fights going here

I do think that initially M&M will have abyssmal sales.... BUT... at least American people will know that India nowadays makes cars which actually sells in USA! First they will laugh at our cars, then they will ignore our cars, then they'll try to degrade our cars thru their own ads... finally our cars will win their heart... be it in next 10 years or so....

In UK, made in India cars (even though thru Suzuki & Hyundai) are gaining popularity.... people started to believe that India can produce world class cars... that's why even M&M fails in USA market, most likely the next Indian brand will succeed.

And that's what we want...
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We are not taking into consideration that mahindra has the option of getting help from Nissan.
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Everybody said the same when Hyundai entered with their Excel in mid-1980s.
Those were the 80's, a not-yet-mature Hyundai product in a market that was still coming out of the free-wheeling, gas-guzzling sixties. And the Japanese were not at the top yet.

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In UK, made in India cars (even though thru Suzuki & Hyundai) are gaining popularity....
May be. But Suzuki's are not really held in awe, yet.
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Mahindra's petrol Scorpio strikes

The 2-litre 4x2 Petrol model boasts a 1998cc four-cylinder 16-valve multi-point fuel injected engine from Renault. It delivers 91kW of power at 5 500 r/min and 180 Nm of torque at 4 000 r/min.

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will the US even allow a car without airbags and abs to be sold in the country now?
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Thumbs up M&M unveils SUVs to be sold in the US

"common rail diesel engines, six-speed automatic transmissions with two- or four-wheel drive depending on the model, and four- year, 60,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranties. Each of the vehicles will have a mileage of between 28 and 35 miles a gallon"

M&M unveils SUVs to be sold in the US

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HI JK, Good Morning! Any pics of the SUV's?
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I think Mahindra already sells it's tractors in US.
That's right. Mahindra tractors are sold in US under the name MUSA (MahindraUSA). When launched, they were positioned at the lowest end of the market.
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In the early eighties, Mahindra had launched their jeeps in Iran. They even set up an assembly plant there. Mahindra earned a bad name there. There was a press report which quoted Iranians as saying that one must never buy an Indian vehicle even if it was available free of cost!

American market is highly competitive and I seriously doubt it will accept Mahindra's present range. It'll probably be a repeat of the Iranian fiasco unless Mahindra creates an alltogether new range, something they don't like doing. After all, even for the Scorpio, they did not create a new chassis and borrowed it from Bolero.
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Mahindra seems to have gotten hold of a 6 speed automatic from somewhere. ZF probably. Must have costed more than the engine.
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With a price of US$22-30k, M&M can't sell any of their existing SUVs in the US in big numbers. It better be something more refined than a Honda Pilot or Toyota 4 Runner, both of which have trim levels priced below US$30k. The 4Runner is real 4x4 too with a lockable center differential. Toyota don't have any of their diesel versions in the US unfortunately, so clearly the market may be rather small.

With Suzuki Grand Vitara and XL-7s available below US$25k and sometimes around US$20k, I hope M&M have done their homework. Hyundai are not bringing in their Accent/ Verna CRDI into the US and I am not sure how M&M is going to deal with California and Northeastern States Emission restrictions. They better have a good warranty on top of all this.
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Mahindra seems to have gotten hold of a 6 speed automatic from somewhere. ZF probably.
Or could be Aisin. From what I read recently it's a little inferior to the ZF but then it would be somewhat cheaper.
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I dont understand how they are going to meet us emissions (Tier II, BIN5) that are stricter than Euro4. Last year they pulled out the Jeep Liberty diesel because it dosent meet emissions and for 2008 things are getting even stricter.

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