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Old 16th November 2015, 17:11   #31
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I am quite surprised at the sale numbers of Fiat Chrysler. It is ahead of Honda & Nissan, but none of its models make it to the Top 16 popular cars.

Also checked their website and saw that their offerings are limited to 3 models
Chrysler 200
Chrysler 300
Chrysler Town & Country

Maybe I am referring to the wrong site. (http://www.chrysler.com/en/lineup/)

How is this possible to not have any model in the Top 16 popular cars and still be ahead of Honda & Nissan. Honda has 3 models in the top 16 and Nissan has 2. In fact, Chrysler is behind Toyota just by a small margin of 8.5k cars (small , Bottom 5 Indian manufacturers do not sell 8k in a month)

PS 1: Chrysler 300 so damn good looking. PLease DO NOT bring this to India - we do not buy gasoline in Gallons !
PS 2: For an Indian in the US, he wouldn't even need to look at the bhp & torque numbers. I do not think any Sedan would be less than 150 bhp.
In the US, FCA sells the below brands.
1. Chrysler
2. Dodge
3. Ram
4. Jeep
5. Fiat
6. Maserati
7. Alfa Romeo

Out of these the volume brands are Dodge and Ram for passenger cars/SUVs and Pick Up Trucks respectively. Dodge sells the Charger, Challenger, Dart, Grand Caravan (janta version of Chrysler T&C) while Ram sells Rams.
Jeep is also quite a mass market brand with the Wrangler, Cherokee, GC selling gangbusters.

The Italians are very niche and probably sell similar numbers as what Fiat sells in India. I kid, I kid - no one can survive selling similar numbers but the three Italians combined probably sell under 5000 units per month.

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One wonders what the Chinese market breakup is: the USA has been overtaken by them as the world's biggest car market IIRC.
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about F-series, its the complete series or is it just F-150?
Its like our Bolero which has many variants, F-series has too many variants. F-150 is still the highest seller though.
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hello guys, very interesting thread and of course USA numbers are mind boggling.
Regarding conditions in India, i have a very different take from few fellow friends. I agree we lack infrastructure, but the bigger problem is lack of discipline in driving.
We are almost habitual to cross signals when it just turns red and then the other guys get delayed and they also do same thing and it just leads to chaos.
Or say we love cutting lanes, we see slight space and there to go slowing other vehicles, or the lot of time 3 lanes have 3 trucks trying to outdo each other at snail pace. these small things keep adding to traffic problems making things way more chaotic then what it should be.
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With Toyota and Honda launching most of their latest cars first in Indonesia, was keen to find out the sales figure in Indonesia and got the following link after some googling

http://www.marklines.com/en/statisti...indonesia_2015

Some interesting figures
1. Total Sales in month of Oct'15 - 88609. Less than half of Indian Market.

2. Top 5 manufacturer for month of Oct'15

Toyota (excludes Lexus) - 29,828
Honda - 14,609
Daihatsu - 13,999
Mitsubishi - 9,835
Suzuki - 9,405

3. Toyota (33.7%) and Honda (15.8%) corner 50% of the market

4. Hyundai is not there even in Top 10.

Top 3 selling vehicles from http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/category/indonesia/

1. Toyota Avanza - 15080
2. Daihatsu Gran Max Pikap - 4900
3. Honda Mobilio - Not available

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Update on the November US Sales.

  • U.S. new-car sales in November continued to run at a blistering pace, putting the auto industry on track to challenge the 17.35 million sales peak reached in 2000.

  • November Sales were at ~1.3 Million units

  • The tally brings the industry this year to 15.82 million vehicles through November.

  • A spate of Black Friday deals coupled with cheap gasoline and low financing costs helped auto makers overall deliver a 1.4% increase over the same month last year, offsetting what historically is a sluggish sales month.

  • With Gasoline prices falling, the bigger vehicles (classified as light trucks) are seeing a surge in sales. 59% of the Monthly Sales was from this category. With similar fuel economy, more interior room and a higher stance than cars, crossover SUVs are gaining appeal among Americans shopping for a new ride across the wide range of brands. Some of the models reaping these benefits were:

    • Nissan. The Rogue crossover became the automaker's most popular vehicle in November. The Rogue surged 45% in November to 22,565 units, outpacing the typically steady Altima sedan, which fell 10% to 20,564.

    • Toyota. RAV4 compact crossover roared 30% to 27,368 units. That made the RAV4 the automaker's No. 2 most popular vehicle in November, behind only the Camry sedan but ahead of the traditionally dependable Corolla compact, which was down 6%.

    • General Motors. The new Chevrolet Trax subcompact crossover flourished, with sales of 6,481 units in its first month in U.S. dealerships — better than any single Cadillac or Buick vehicle, by comparison
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  • VW is getting crushed. The Volkswagen Brand sales fell 25% while the overall VW group sales fell 16%. VW attributed it to the fact that the sales of diesel cars have been halted.


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It's not only that. Probably in reality the difference in market size is even greater.
All mature markets, EU, US etc report ACTUAL monthly REGISTRATIONS; i.e. vehicles rolling off the showroom floor into the garages of customers. I think even China quotes actual vehicle registrations.

Whereas in our country, monthly sales are quoted as despatches, popularly known as "dealer offtake" - i.e. factory to dealer. And OEM market share is calculated on this hallowed "offtake" figure.

In India we still do not get actual registration data "officially" through any of the statutory industry bodies such as SIAM, Ministry of Transport etc.

If you factor this in, the gap will be even larger! A rough estimate, says around 75-80% of "offtake vehicles" are actually retailed by dealers in India. This figure varies obviously on the popularity of a particular model, the City/Town, Number of dealers the OEM has etc.

So, we still have a long way to go before we even become visible in the rear view mirror of US vehicle sales, drawing parallel and overtaking comes much later!
How does the use of use 'actual registrations' or 'despatch to dealers' matter? As long as it is used consistently.
I mean your point is despatch to dealer may be a higher figure than actual retail sales. It's not. If you consider one particular month, it may be different. For example, in October there could have been 500 despatches to dealers and 400 actual sales. Assuming same no of actual sales (for simplicity) the despatch to dealers will be 400 for Nov rt? The dealers will 'refill' whatever is actually sold, not the maximum no every month.
If we consider any particular month, the two figures can vary, but over months, on a rolling fashion, this will even out. It doesn't matter which parameter is used for the figures, as long as it is consistent.

Isn't it like this or am I missing something here?

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U.S. auto sales break record in 2015

The U.S. auto industry set a sales record in 2015 as solid December gains by the biggest automakers pushed the annual tally above the 17,402,486 mark set in 2000.

Automakers chalked up 17,470,659 light-vehicle sales last year, an increase of 5.7 percent over 2014, according to the Automotive News Data Center. The December increase of 8.9 percent was one of the year’s strongest, while the seasonally adjusted annual sales rate came in at 17.3 million, the lowest since June.

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Americans Bought A Record 17.47 Million Cars In 2015

We bought so many cars, you guys. We bought like, more cars than we have ever bought before. Millions and millions of them! As Automotive News reports, we bought no fewer than 17,470,659 cars and trucks, beating out our previous record in the year 2000.

We only mustered 17,402,486 vehicles back then. Shameful.

This is also nearly a million more cars than we bought last year. In 2014, we only managed a pitiful 16.52 million car purchases.

Congrats, America, we are 5.7 percent better consumers than we were a year ago.

At the heart of the boom was leasing, which is at a record 29 percent of new car sales.

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Here are some interesting Stats from Sales Data

Group Level

Biggest Gain YoY - JLR Group which sold 26.5% more compared to 2014.

Least Gain YoY- VW Group which sold just 0.4% more compared to 2014

Most Cars Sold - It was GM which moved 3,082,366 vehicles in 2015 from their showrooms

Least Cars Sold - JLR sold just 85,048 vehicles which was 26.5% higher than last year which was just 5.0% more than 2014

Company level

Biggest Gain YoY - Alpha Romeo sold a whopping 628.7% more cars compared to 2014, before anyone gets excited they sold 663 cars in 2015.

Least Gain YoY- BMW which sold just 1.9% more compared to 2014

Biggest Loser YoY - SMART USA whose sales dipped by 28.4% compared to 2014

Most Cars Sold - Ford sold 2,501,855 vehicles in 2015.

Least Cars Sold - Alpha Romeo sold just 663 vehicles which was interestingly 628.6% higher than last year.

I want to make a special mention for Tesla as it sold 22,800 vehicles which was 26.7% more than it did in 2014, this is promising as it encourages more companies to make high quality electric cars.

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For Ford, GM , Honda and the German trio the Indian sales equals 15 days sales figures in USA at the most. Can't imagine the enormity of the market, hope we never reach such figures. No wonder these car makers don't spend too much of their energy on our market. Is there any way to find out the average years a car is used before it ends up in a scrapyard?
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Mind-boggling figures, eh!

Toyota and Nissan (rightly so) have done majority of the heavy lifting; slightly surprised about Hyundai and Honda; not as drastic a gain as Toyota and Nissan.

Dirt cheap fuel and a vastly improved economy have clearly done their bit!

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Is there any way to find out the average years a car is used before it ends up in a scrapyard?
Just my observation: unless a car is considered a total loss (which is very likely in case of even a minor accident, since the cost of labor is enormous), Americans do hold on to old vehicles; especially as you move away from the metros. You'll be surprised how many 15-20yr old Chevy's (mostly trucks, not cars), Honda's and Toyota's are still running. America, outside the glistening metros, is a fairly lower middle class country.
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I want to make a special mention for Tesla as it sold 22,800 vehicles which was 26.7% more than it did in 2014, this is promising as it encourages more companies to make high quality electric cars.
The recently showcased Chevy Bolt is going to put some pressure on Tesla.

By the way, for all its glitz, Tesla loses money on every car it sells

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-te...0QE0DC20150810

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Dirt cheap fuel and a vastly improved economy have clearly done their bit!
Not for the SMART car though
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A very nicely presented summary of USA Car Sales, 2016 - Full AutoNews Article.

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U.S. light-vehicle sales hit a new high of 17,539,052 in 2016. That's a mere 0.3 percent ahead of 2015, but a record is a record. The industry has chalked up seven straight annual sales increases, which is a streak of success (kept alive by a strong December) that the U.S. auto industry has not seen in a century.
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