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Old 5th October 2016, 22:41   #1
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Ever wondered what happens to excess or obsolete inventory (E&O)? Well, I guess this is how its managed, by scrapping it!

Its a sad scene to see some factory baked models going through the scrapping process! Came across a detailed video that clearly shows what happens units that never get sold!

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In India, they'd have been cannibalized for spares.

All that industrial energy spent manufacturing it, and now even more spent breaking it down for recycling it.

Eh, I prefer our approach. It helps when we have a cheap labour pool.

EDIT: Not sure this belongs in the 'Shifting Gears' sub-forum when it most definitely is about cars.

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It's so bad & painful to see, cars getting crushed like this. But are we sure these are excess inventories and not some test cars? Why won't they sell these at cheaper rates? This video and cars look from early 2000 era, do they still do similarly.
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What a terrible waste.

They ought to offer these cars at cut rates to developing economies or sell them off in their own countries at phenomenal discounts. OR sell them to "used car dealers" as an "old stock-brand new" program or similar.

Saying that, I guess their economic considerations are different. If they sell them to developing economies they will be accused of dumping.

And if they sell at cut rates, then they will destroy their "brand mystique".

To me, it seems a terribly wicked, criminal waste.

Frankly most of these cars will be far ahead in terms of features and emissions and all the rest of it, when compared to the present day crop of "brand new" cars being sold in the developing economies. That alone, should make governments like ours, think a bit along with these manufacturers.
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All those green house gases generated and contributed to the global warming, while manufacturing these cars, all in vain. No one used these cars.

These are scrapped, and now they will again go through the same manufacturing process producing more green house gases.

There are some company/government policies that don't make any sense, neither social, nor environmental and neither financial. This is one such mind numbing policy.
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If I am correct, these are pre-production cars used for testing / homologation/ assessing modifications. They do not always meet the final release specs.

The "factory seconds sale" does not cut it considering litigations, brand value etc. Jaguar do the same. I remember seeing a pristine XKR being destroyed like this.
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If I am correct, these are pre-production cars used for testing / homologation/ assessing modifications. They do not always meet the final release specs.
YES, i agree to ajmat.

For example the Fortuner prototype which was seen running around KA;

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^ Such cars are called " Goshi " vehicles (Toyota terminology). As these being pre-production prototypes but very close to showroom standard are prohibited to being driven in public.

The above is only used for test purpose till the car is launched & in the future will be scrapped or may be broken apart to see how the parts/components had performed in other ageing related tests.

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If I am correct, these are pre-production cars used for testing / homologation/ assessing modifications. They do not always meet the final release specs.
That is correct. I used to work for a German company in Stuttgart where we worked on the ECU. It would be crazy to sell these cars that are used for field testing. These are companies working to make a profit, they do this for many reasons including legal issues. It would be impossible to prove that all parts of the car did not have any long term impact because of all the tests that are done during field testing.

Field testing of these cars (including italian exotics) was my dream job. When I got to know even those cars are crushed, video recorded, and sent to manufacturer as proof, it was beyond heart breaking. Especially, for a new grad from India.
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What a criminal waste of energy! We for sure are the most greedy ever on this planet!
Them having a proper set up / machining etc indicate that this is not a one time affair.

I dont these cars were ever used (look at the engine oil drain.. so clean!).

These would qualify as better cars than what is sold in most developed countries. The should probably create a low value brand and sell with a rebadge perhaps.

We do all these and worry about climate change, what an irony!
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What arrogance.
Really just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to why West pollutes our planet the most. And they blame us developing nations for it. Pity!
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YES, i agree to ajmat.

For example the Fortuner prototype which was seen running around KA;

The above is only used for test purpose till the car is launched & in the future will be scrapped or may be broken apart to see how the parts/components had performed in other ageing related tests.
Agree with the pre-production cars theory, but in the video, if you look closely, the Engine oil was the same color as new.
Interiors were spic and span.
Field testing vehicles are attached with lot of monitoring equipment & hence one will not find a lot of standard fitments in test mules. That was not the case in the cars being crushed in that video.
Moreover, one look at the engine bay and also the underneath of the car and it is easy to gauge that these cars were not used at all.
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I guess , as most people said , it might be the test mules or maybe they can't sell it because they don't comply to the latest emission rules ?
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http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/visitor_i...smantling.html

Here you go. This will shed some additional light on the topic. That's BMW Recycling Centre, Lohhof. A must visit if you are in Munich.

These are HEA cars, pre production units that are not authorised to be sold. Plus, cars destined to be scrapped post homologation etc.

The centre targets to prove that 83% + of a BMW is recycled plus a lot more trivia behind it.
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