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Old 26th May 2017, 08:36   #1
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Just found these pics of what seems to be the brochure of the 2018 Toyota Prado.
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Must say that both the cruisers need a full blown upgrade and not just a facelift. The LC200 and the Prado 150 has been around since ages and that 2.8ltr D-4D engine powering the Prado is a big downer.
Source:instagram user hamad1two3(the same guy had posted pics of the LC200 before it's release worldwide.)
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Completely agreed, this has been soldiering on since 2009, but I believe Toyota doesn't want to mess with the formula since it's still selling well as a competent product.
Remember that this is the company that sold the Innova and Fortuner almost unchanged for 12 years.
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Is this an all new generation or are they just facelifting the current model?

It just looks like a facelift to get the looks in line with the new (facelifted) LC200 launched around 2015. They really need to get all new generations in; typically they followed the 7 year cycle for botht eh LC200 and the Prado, but the current generations have been around since 2007 and 2009, respectively. Getting a bit long in the tooth now.
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Prado is pretty much irrelevant as far as the Indian auto scene goes. With prices already north of 1cr and with no hope of rationalization, this updated model will only put it further out of reach. As it is, hardly anyone buys the Prado nowadays for it is not much more than a souped up Fortuner. There are so many competent options from established players in the luxury car market. Don't see this ruffling any feathers for Merc or Audi.

Price it at 50L ex showroom, Toyota, and you will have our attention.
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Completely agreed, this has been soldiering on since 2009, but I believe Toyota doesn't want to mess with the formula since it's still selling well as a competent product.
Remember that this is the company that sold the Innova and Fortuner almost unchanged for 12 years.
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Is this an all new generation or are they just facelifting the current model?

It just looks like a facelift to get the looks in line with the new (facelifted) LC200 launched around 2015. They really need to get all new generations in; typically they followed the 7 year cycle for botht eh LC200 and the Prado, but the current generations have been around since 2007 and 2009, respectively. Getting a bit long in the tooth now.
Remember, even the current Innova and Fortuner are still based on mildly reworked platforms of their predecessors. This is why the wheelbase and the positioning of the pillars still remains more or less the same. Toyota has been giving us the same Innova and Fortuner for more than a decade now!

As for the Prado, Toyota seems to have done the same thing yet again. A mildly reworked platform of the previous one probably?

What does get my goat is the price.

Seriously, how does Toyota have the guts to price something like this up there near Audis and Volvos? Either ways, its the same standard formula. Worked before, will work again. Manufacturers will never learn this way.

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Remember, even the current Innova and Fortuner are still based on mildly reworked platforms of their predecessors. This is why the wheelbase and the positioning of the pillars still remains more or less the same. Toyota has been giving us the same Innova and Fortuner for more than a decade now!

As for the Prado, Toyota seems to have done the same thing yet again. A mildly reworked platform of the previous one probably?

What does get my goat is the price.

Seriously, how does Toyota have the guts to price something like this up there near Audis and Volvos? Either ways, its the same standard formula. Worked before, will work again. Manufacturers will never learn this way.
True that. The only difference is the Innova and Fortuner have a formula that works. Not saying the Prado's formula doesn't, it probably does; but like you said its the price that makes this a shelf warmer in India.

What might make you angrier however, is that in India this is priced well around the 1cr mark - ex-showroom, that puts it far beyond the Audi's and Volvo's and well into Range Rover territory. That's criminal pricing.
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I think it's Toyota simply getting complacent with their body-on-frames. And it's not just in India with the Innova & Fortuner; even their global flagship SUV - the LandCruiser / Lexus LX - feels terribly outdated. And with good reason too - the 200 Series has been around forever! This at a time when Europeans are churning out all-new generations at a faster rate.

Disappointed with this attitude, especially when you consider the fat profit margins on these old school body-on-frame UVs. Would expect Toyota to give them a li'l more love & care.
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I think it's Toyota simply getting complacent with their body-on-frames. And it's not just in India with the Innova & Fortuner; even their global flagship SUV - the LandCruiser / Lexus LX - feels terribly outdated. And with good reason too - the 200 Series has been around forever! This at a time when Europeans are churning out all-new generations at a faster rate.

Disappointed with this attitude, especially when you consider the fat profit margins on these old school body-on-frame UVs. Would expect Toyota to give them a li'l more love & care.
Exactly.

And I'm not sure what numbers the LC200 and Prado do internationally, but they aren't 'cheap' by any means and do compete with the Germans and Brits, and I'm pretty sure the Germans and Brits get the better of them in most markets.

The LC200 is on its whopping second facelift at the moment. The only other cars I remember this happening to are the G-Wagen (but that's a completely different story altogether), and the Range Rover Vogue, who's previous generation had a 10 year run - 2002-2012 with a couple of facelifts keeping it afloat.
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