Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP Worldwide > The International Automotive Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 2nd April 2007, 14:17   #16
Senior - BHPian
 
rahul_intlad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,577
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Quote:
So MiniCAT is more like the Zen Estilo
Tata's one lakh car is also supposed to be on similar grounds,or is this car with a normal petrol engine the one lakh car by tata.
rahul_intlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd April 2007, 17:29   #17
Ram
Senior - BHPian
 
Ram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur
Posts: 2,165
Thanked: 144 Times
Default Tata's one lakh car

Ahhh, the one-lakh tourniquet is all we need to slow our traffic flow to a trickle.

The traffic on our streets and rural highways, carrying man and material from place to place, is the lifeline (blood circulation if you will) of our beloved Nation.

In the sixties and seventies, the wooden spoked bullock-carts, assisted by mysteriously overturning TMB-1210 lorries (the countryside was actually littered with'em), acted as atherosclerotic blocks effectively bottlenecking the flow.

Some angiographic traffic-analysis to see what ails the Nation, will reveal the 3- to 10-passenger rickshaws, Piaggio Apes and Minidors to be today's primary traffic impedances.

Now all we need is an even more ubiquitous, low-priced, low power-to-weight ratio vehicle to follow on.

Will it really put the nation on wheels? Or will it brake the wheels already struggling to turn?

rahul_intlad, aren't we already down to an average flow of 10 km/h in rush hour Pune traffic? How much slower must we sustain?

Last edited by Ram : 2nd April 2007 at 17:30.
Ram is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd April 2007, 18:20   #18
BHPian
 
goldie_malhotra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 757
Thanked: 10 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ram View Post
Some angiographic traffic-analysis to see what ails the Nation, will reveal the 3- to 10-passenger rickshaws, Piaggio Apes and Minidors to be today's primary traffic impedances.

Now all we need is an even more ubiquitous, low-priced, low power-to-weight ratio vehicle to follow on.
At least this one wont turn your face black with the soot and gas they send out.

What ails our traffic is not these low-powered verhicles, but the general lack of road-sense amongst the people driving them. Not that people driving much bigger/flashier cars display more of it.
goldie_malhotra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd April 2007, 19:09   #19
Ram
Senior - BHPian
 
Ram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur
Posts: 2,165
Thanked: 144 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra View Post
What ails our traffic is not these low-powered verhicles, but the general lack of road-sense amongst the people driving them. Not that people driving much bigger/flashier cars display more of it.
The European and American road user has gone through the same civilizing process albeit chronologically earlier. So maybe someday things will improve here.

Today, the horses, carriages and dung-heaps of England are gone and their roads have more homogenous vehicle sizes.

Bicycles are banned from the street and heavy commercial vehicles in urban Europe are not permitted in the city between 08:00 and 23:00.

Even in Singapore, other than in Serangoon (Little India), you will not find jaywalking pedestrians on the road, anywhere except on zebra crossings when the light is red for vehicular traffic.

On the other hand, the colorful heterogenuity in Indian city traffic is unparalleled.

Nowhere else in the world have I seen, wheel-loaders, water-tank trucks, tractor-trailers, 40-foot-container-trailer-rigs, autorickshaws, 50-passenger buses, bicycles, two wheelers of all descriptions, not to mention simple pedestrians vying for roadspace with cars from Maruti 800s and Santros to Hyundai Sonatas.



Heterogenous Pune vs. Homogenous Birmingham
Ram is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd April 2007, 10:11   #20
BHPian
 
goldie_malhotra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 757
Thanked: 10 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ram View Post
On the other hand, the colorful heterogenuity in Indian city traffic is unparalleled.

Nowhere else in the world have I seen, wheel-loaders, water-tank trucks, tractor-trailers, 40-foot-container-trailer-rigs, autorickshaws, 50-passenger buses, bicycles, two wheelers of all descriptions, not to mention simple pedestrians vying for roadspace with cars from Maruti 800s and Santros to Hyundai Sonatas.
Quite true - The other day I saw a Bentley Flying Spur trying to squeeze in between a ditch by the side of the road and a rickshaw, with a M800 honking madly behind her. Dont think I would get to see this sight anywhere else

Though I agree with the concept of restricting certain vehicles to certain sections of the city/highway. The air-powered car should not be allowed to enter any highway - it could be very dangerous. Ditto for all those assorted set of 3 wheelers dotting the rural landscape.

Last edited by goldie_malhotra : 3rd April 2007 at 10:14.
goldie_malhotra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 22:23   #21
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,045
Thanked: 64 Times
Default

Source


LONDON: Tata Motors Ltd has confirmed that it is collaborating to develop an air-powered car with French inventors, a newspaper reported.

Tata Motors Managing Director Ravi Kant told a leading financial daily that his group last year signed an agreement with MDI, a private French company developing cars driven by compressed air.

"It's a very exciting concept, this way of running a car. We hope something will come out of it," Kant said.

He confirmed Tata Motors had the technology rights for India and was "studying whether it can be used".

Tata was looking at applying the technology for both mobile and stationary uses, he said in an interview published Sunday.

Reports last week said Tata was looking at the feasibility of applying the technology to power generation. According to MDI, which is based near Nice, compressed air technology can be applied to emergency generators.

Guy Negre, the French engineer who is working on the invention, was quoted saying last week his five-seater OneCat, with zero emissions in cities, will be marketed within a year.
hondadude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2008, 08:41   #22
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 474
Thanked: 25 Times
Default

Well Ram. I have advise for you since you love London/Singapore/anywhere else, please shift there and be happy there.

Once you stay there long enough, you will know what India is; no other country is.

Well in many parts of the cities, trucks are not allowed in after 9 AM.

I am sure, I will see Ram as one of the people breaking all the rules of good road driving.

btw your post was made a long time ago. I hope you read Tata's comments when he launched the Nano. He is trying to help the guy who owns a bike who has a family and not to give rich men a new cheap toy.

Last edited by supercars : 19th February 2008 at 08:44. Reason: Smilie not coming properly
supercars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2008, 22:30   #23
v&v
Senior - BHPian
 
v&v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delhi
Posts: 1,538
Thanked: 1,068 Times
Thumbs up air cars - air powerd cars after electric cars

i saw a program on discovery channel regarding the air car and its technology.

the program says this is a workable technology and some indian companies are also working on this technology. i heard even TATAs are too getting into it.

it is even said , it have a compressor which will compress the air and can be self sustaining. Car running of just air....

Air car ready for production : Yahoo! Green

this is one of links for details.
Guy any more info please share.
v&v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2008, 01:06   #24
BHPian
 
dhaval's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pune
Posts: 404
Thanked: Once
Default

Glad to know that the "Air Car" will be built by our very own Tata Motors. India's shining kudos to Tata.
dhaval is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2008, 02:45   #25
Team-BHP Support
 
Rehaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 22,381
Thanked: 22,606 Times
Default

Threads merged

Heres another thread on the TATA aspect of it : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...logy-home.html

cya
R
Rehaan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2008, 08:37   #26
BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 29
Thanked: Once
Default

any update on it? I thought they were gonna introduce in Aug of '08, which is next month

Tata OneCAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
XCygon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2008, 11:21   #27
BHPian
 
sridhga's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 179
Thanked: 13 Times
Default CAT Vehicles

I work for one of the large air compressor companies in the world. As far as my understanding goes CAT vehicles are in use since long time but mainly as off road vehicles. You see these vehicles in golf courses, airport transportation,in-factory transportation etc. May be Tata is getting into such off road vehicle business or maybe they are trying to make this technology technically feasible for on road transportation. But our company recently sold their CAT business segment to Volvo. Now you see Tata is not the only automobile company getting into this business.
sridhga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2008, 11:40   #28
BHPian
 
sridhga's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 179
Thanked: 13 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by srishiva View Post
The above mentioned system uses electric motor to compress the air. Wouldn't it be efficient for the electric motor to run the wheels directly. If the air was compressed by some other means and stored(and not on the vehicle), it makes sense.

Am I missing something here ?
AFAIK Compressed air technology is more effective atleast in industrial applications than an electric motors. It is also more safe for the workers and is more energy efficient.
sridhga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th December 2009, 14:13   #29
BHPian
 
penpavan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Blore
Posts: 381
Thanked: 131 Times
Default

Tata Air Car launch in India in 2011 likely, Tata Motors compressed air car | DWS Auto India

Guys, any news regarding the above?
penpavan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th December 2009, 14:40   #30
BHPian
 
Neil.Bhujbal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Pune
Posts: 189
Thanked: 57 Times
Default

The above link said the company had to deliver cars to some country by June 2009 and looks like that has not happened yet.

The air car's will surely come but not anytime soon.

Here's another link telling about the same car. Was posted in 2007

A car that runs on air, in India soon

Last edited by Neil.Bhujbal : 15th December 2009 at 14:43.
Neil.Bhujbal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Philips India launches Daytime running lamps & an In-cabin Air purification system GTO Modifications & Accessories 144 30th December 2015 12:09
Peugeot's Hybrid Tech : Petrol + Compressed Air! naut The International Automotive Scene 4 28th February 2014 16:40
Tata's Air Car (to run on compressed air) shiv The Indian Car Scene 1 12th February 2008 15:19


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 00:29.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks