Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP Worldwide > The International Automotive Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 1st May 2004, 01:11   #1
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,717
Thanked: 425 Times
Default

check out some pics of the honda Civic and road test reports.
The report is titled " More Power but is it enough". The car is the India bound civic 1.7
I quote some key points from the review. I have tried to stick to the performance aspect:

1. the new Civic Si sedan is not really a match for it bulked up competitors. The numbers tell the story: the Mazda3 GT offers 160 horsepower; the Nissan Sentra SE-R 165 horsepower; Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart 162 horsepower; Subaru Impreza TS sedan 165 horsepower; VW Jetta 1.8T 180 horsepower; 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 170 horsepower; and the 2005 Saturn Ion Red Line with 200 horsepower.

2. Driving Impressions:
The Civic Si is a very easy car to drive. Small and manoeuverable with lightweight (variable power assist) steering, a 5.6 metre turning circle, a wonderful manual gearbox and a light clutch, the Civic is a great car to whip around the city.

But even with its more powerful 127 horsepower engine, the Si Sedan is weak when accelerating due to its low torque rating (114 lb-ft @ 4800). You have to keep the revs up to extract the power, and above 4000 rpm, the engine is quite buzzy. I noticed this on the Civic Coupe Si as well, but it seems more pronounced now that I have driven other more powerful competitors with more torque and less noise.

On the freeway, the engine does 3000 @ 100 km/h and 3500 rpm at 120 km/h, and it seems quite happy at those speeds.

3. Fuel Efficiency:
Fuel consumption is better than most of its rivals: 8.0 l/100 km (35 mpg) city and 6.0 l/100 km (47 mpg) highway. Only a base Corolla can better those figures.

4. Verdict:
While offering the traditional Civic virtues of fuel economy and fun-to-drive handling, the Civic Si sedan isn't powerful enough to compete with many of its performance-oriented compact competitors.

So those were some points in the review. OF course, here in inida the civic will be performance king. Sorry the message was kinda long but i had to devote some space to what may be one of the most high profile car to be launched this year in India.
the engine: 1.7 ltr 4 cylinder SOHC 16 valve VTEC
Power: 127ps@6300rpm
Torque: 114lb-ft@4800rpm
Now for some pics
amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2004, 01:13   #2
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,717
Thanked: 425 Times
Default

the back side




the side profile

amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2004, 01:16   #3
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,717
Thanked: 425 Times
Default

The interiors





amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2004, 01:20   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,717
Thanked: 425 Times
Default

The boot



The best part of any honda car - The engine

amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2004, 03:50   #5
Senior - BHPian
 
Shan2nu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hubli - Karnata
Posts: 5,525
Thanked: 87 Times
Default

127bhp is bad, considering that they might reduce the power furthur more to match Indian conditions. So expect the power to come down by atleast 8-10bhp.

It's not a good looker if you ask me. The front view looks fine but resembles the old Accord a lot. That will put off, many a customers. the rear sucks, and the side view is completely miss matched, the Vtec looks much better in that view.

The steering, gear knob and dials are very good, but the centre console is again a big disappointment.

Well, it might be a succes in India, but it'll always be a failure in my eyes. It's a dull car with what, i'm afraid will have a dull performance.

the car looks more european than japanese and i don't like it. Hope Honda gets another version of the Civic.

Personally, i wouldn't want a car like this in my garage unless, it proves to be a better driver's car than the Corolla and Skoda.

Cmon Honda, you can't give us an amazing car like the Accord and then expect to sell crap like this.

Regards...
Shan2nu
Shan2nu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2004, 11:54   #6
v12
Distinguished - BHPian
 
v12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 5,882
Thanked: 3,266 Times
Default

Hey shantanu, 127 bhp is for the 1.7L engine. Int Honda gettin the 1.8 here???
v12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2004, 12:59   #7
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,740
Thanked: 89,251 Times
Default

Isnt this design just what was expected of a Civic? Its pretty neat and clean, and is the design cue that Civics have followed for ages now.

The one area where Honda are gonna have to work hard is the interiors...right now they are just too greyishly dull. Even the new Honda citys interiors are better than this one pictured here.

Indians love great interiors, Honda knows this pretty well by now.

GTO
GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd May 2004, 05:14   #8
BANNED
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Manipal
Posts: 286
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

hmm more corolla-ish. especially the lights. the older ones were better. rest is virtually the same the rear and the insides too. my bro owns one at home and man its one hell of a sweet machine...!!!!! love those chromed speedo meters..!!!! and that diferrant light stages,,,!
vishnugnair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd May 2004, 19:30   #9
Senior - BHPian
 
lamborghini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 4,636
Thanked: 1,263 Times
Default

thanx amit
that was an interesting post
the car looks ugly and outdated not to mention underpowered.
if launched in india sales wont go well unless honda gives it a minor face lift
its all upto the new civic which will be launched in 2006 to bring back hondas glory
oh well good bye guys
lamborghini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2004, 12:37   #10
Team-BHP Support
 
Rtech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 5,769
Thanked: 212 Times
Default

Guys, while this model of the Civic may make it into India via the SKD route, Honda has said that they are tooling up to manufacture the NEXT generation Civic in India. They may launch this just to give their loyal customers a car at the same level as teh Corolla, but they are concentrating their efforts on the new civic which is to be launched towards the end of 2005. And I'm sure it'll be as amazing as the new accord was to the old one! Can't wait!
Rtech is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pre-owned Civic or Brand-new Sedan? EDIT - Bought a Civic arvi86 What Car? 88 25th May 2011 06:29
Honda City Vs Honda Civic E Vs Honda Civic V (pre-owned) drkunaldas Sedans 4 31st October 2010 18:07
Arya Honda v. Apex Honda | Honda Manual v. Auto Civic Axe77 Indian Car Dealerships 12 21st July 2009 07:22
Need help in deciding on upgrade from Honda Civic 1.8S MT to mid size AT sedan jaidevmurti Sedans 11 14th June 2009 22:49
Honda Civic MUGEN Si Sedan rahul_intlad The International Automotive Scene 8 7th November 2006 20:37


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 12:38.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks