Has anyone seen the VW Phaeton - Team-BHP

need4speed · 29th May 2004, 03:34

Just out of curiosity. Have any of you guys who have travelled abroad seen a VW Phaeton. The top of the line model was supposed to have a W12, 6 litre engine and all that jazz. Was launched as a direct competitor to the S class and 7 series. Fancy glass building to build the car where customers could choose to come and watch their cars being built. Hope its not used to build Polos and Golfs now.

Rehaan · 29th May 2004, 06:09

Hey N4S,

I did see the Phaeton at the NYC Autoshow, but honestly it was so visually boring that i did not look at it long at all....i just looked and sayd "THATS a phaeton!!?!?..." and walked towards the mercedes section! lol.
didnt even bother to take a picture! sorry

cya
Rehaan

Rehaan · 29th May 2004, 06:27

OOps...i guess it was stupid of me to assume i didnt have a single pic out of the 450+pics i took that day!

i guess i understimated my trigger happiness! lol

Pferdestärke · 29th May 2004, 07:42

Yepp, Boring..
I love it in that Picture Rehaan, but I guess its you .. not the CAR! (honestly looks wicked in there). But my first ever experience to it naked eyed wasnt that interesting. Just passed by, Did steel the attention, but looked too blunt. The ones in its class are far better looking. Mind you, I am just plainly talking about the looks experience comparing it in its class. Though it seems to be selling pretty well in the continent. I think its the cheapest in its class, ain'it?

need4speed · 29th May 2004, 11:39

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Rehaan @ May 29 2004,04:39)]I did see the Phaeton at the NYC Autoshow, but honestly it was so visually boring that i did not look at it long at all....i just looked and sayd "THATS a phaeton!!?!?..." and walked towards the mercedes section! lol.
didnt even bother to take a picture! sorry

Rehaan. I wouldnt even expect you to take a pic of it.

It is a boring car no doubt. With so much talk here abt mercs, bmws, audis and jags, was wondering what happened to he w12 vw. But i guess it doesnt even begin to count, when image is everything in this section of the car buyer.
Whats the point of having it when u have audi in ur group. Wonder how many top guys at vw themselves would go for the phaeton. Another of those eccentricities of the chap who was at the top.

GTO · 29th May 2004, 12:41

The one thing that went against teh Phaeton is the brand. VW, by definition, is a peoples car and its surprising that VW expected people to pay a premium price for its not-so-premium brand. The second is the looks factor. The Phaeton has just too much in common with its smaller and significantly cheaper siblings.

GTO

Rtech · 29th May 2004, 13:03

Do you guys think there's anything to be made of the Phaeton ad's that are appearing on TV recently? Introducing the Phaeton to the public slowly maybe?

Doesn't make sense and also highly unlikely that a large expensive VW would ever sell in badge conscious South-East Asia, but who knows....

GTO · 29th May 2004, 13:57

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Do you guys think there's anything to be made of the Phaeton ad's that are appearing on TV recently? Introducing the Phaeton to the public slowly maybe?

Probably looking at China. I read somewhere that China is one of the biggest markets worldwide for Bentley, Rolls Royce, Merc S Class and the 7 series.

GTO

S350L-E240 · 29th May 2004, 15:46

I Think like GTO said, The brand is what dents the car the most,
Ive not seen one personally,
Buy some places ive read the car is quite nice,
Has a quality level as good as Mercedes S,
Infact certain things are even better then the S,
But then who cares it's a VW

Rehaan · 29th May 2004, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (GTO @ May 29 2004,12:27)]I read somewhere that China is one of the biggest markets worldwide for Bentley, Rolls Royce, Merc S Class and the 7 series.

Hey,

I also read somewhere that somehing like 70% (?not sure) of all the S-classes sold in China are black! (Read: chinese mafia!)

cya
R

Revvmaster · 29th May 2004, 16:57

Hehehe... well Rehaan 98% of the governments worldwide own an S-class...

Revv

S350L-E240 · 29th May 2004, 18:14

Revv,
How about tellin that to our PM who uses a damn 7?

it's so unfit for that post!

ported_head · 29th May 2004, 18:25

well i quite like the Phaeton, exudes a certain teutonicness about itself, as all German cars do, and which the Mercedes does a little less. the range of engines is very impressive too, and i believe the V10 TDI won the International Engine of the Year Award, or something like that. The ad i think is brilliant too, one of the better ones around. very intelligent idea behind the ad, but they dragged it on for too long

S350L-E240 · 29th May 2004, 20:36

I think i like the interior,
BTW where's the A/C vents?

v12 · 29th May 2004, 20:47

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]BTW where's the A/C vents?

I have 3 answers :
1.> In the footwell.

2.> This cud be the base non-a/c version.

The cars good overall. But looks very much like the Passat.

29th May 2004, 06:09	#2 (permalink)
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay / New York Posts: 7,920	Hey N4S, I did see the Phaeton at the NYC Autoshow, but honestly it was so visually boring that i did not look at it long at all....i just looked and sayd "THATS a phaeton!!?!?..." and walked towards the mercedes section! lol. didnt even bother to take a picture! sorry cya Rehaan __________________ The memory of you will ride by our side forever.

29th May 2004, 06:27	#3 (permalink)
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay / New York Posts: 7,920	OOps...i guess it was stupid of me to assume i didnt have a single pic out of the 450+pics i took that day! i guess i understimated my trigger happiness! lol __________________ The memory of you will ride by our side forever.

29th May 2004, 07:42	#4 (permalink)
Pferdestärke BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 269	Yepp, Boring.. I love it in that Picture Rehaan, but I guess its you .. not the CAR! (honestly looks wicked in there). But my first ever experience to it naked eyed wasnt that interesting. Just passed by, Did steel the attention, but looked too blunt. The ones in its class are far better looking. Mind you, I am just plainly talking about the looks experience comparing it in its class. Though it seems to be selling pretty well in the continent. I think its the cheapest in its class, ain'it? __________________ Reasons aside.. Its just not a Ferrari. Ferrari?? The Italian Trash..? Kill Bill

29th May 2004, 12:41	#6 (permalink)
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 13,169 View My Garage	The one thing that went against teh Phaeton is the brand. VW, by definition, is a peoples car and its surprising that VW expected people to pay a premium price for its not-so-premium brand. The second is the looks factor. The Phaeton has just too much in common with its smaller and significantly cheaper siblings. GTO __________________ GTO Change the way you think, and watch the world change around you. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

29th May 2004, 13:03	#7 (permalink)
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,982 View My Garage	Do you guys think there's anything to be made of the Phaeton ad's that are appearing on TV recently? Introducing the Phaeton to the public slowly maybe? Doesn't make sense and also highly unlikely that a large expensive VW would ever sell in badge conscious South-East Asia, but who knows.... __________________ He who makes the loudest noise usually has the least to say. Unfortunately they don't realise that and keep at it! ____

29th May 2004, 03:34	#1 (permalink)
need4speed BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 107	Just out of curiosity. Have any of you guys who have travelled abroad seen a VW Phaeton. The top of the line model was supposed to have a W12, 6 litre engine and all that jazz. Was launched as a direct competitor to the S class and 7 series. Fancy glass building to build the car where customers could choose to come and watch their cars being built. Hope its not used to build Polos and Golfs now.

29th May 2004, 15:46	#9 (permalink)
S350L-E240 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: India Posts: 540	I Think like GTO said, The brand is what dents the car the most, Ive not seen one personally, Buy some places ive read the car is quite nice, Has a quality level as good as Mercedes S, Infact certain things are even better then the S, But then who cares it's a VW __________________ Current cars : E240 (211) & S350L.. Mercedes-Benz is all you need in life...

29th May 2004, 16:57	#11 (permalink)
Revvmaster BANNED Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,129	Hehehe... well Rehaan 98% of the governments worldwide own an S-class... Revv

29th May 2004, 18:14	#12 (permalink)
S350L-E240 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: India Posts: 540	Revv, How about tellin that to our PM who uses a damn 7? it's so unfit for that post! __________________ Current cars : E240 (211) & S350L.. Mercedes-Benz is all you need in life...

29th May 2004, 18:25	#13 (permalink)
ported_head Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,020	well i quite like the Phaeton, exudes a certain teutonicness about itself, as all German cars do, and which the Mercedes does a little less. the range of engines is very impressive too, and i believe the V10 TDI won the International Engine of the Year Award, or something like that. The ad i think is brilliant too, one of the better ones around. very intelligent idea behind the ad, but they dragged it on for too long __________________ BE 6.5 You lose some, you lose some.

29th May 2004, 20:36	#14 (permalink)
S350L-E240 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: India Posts: 540	I think i like the interior, BTW where's the A/C vents? __________________ Current cars : E240 (211) & S350L.. Mercedes-Benz is all you need in life...

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